From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Juanma Barranquero" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:33:44 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87myq4saw1.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <200802171658.m1HGwQ4h011067@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219085231.GA1032@muc.de> <200802190938.m1J9ccVg016565@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <20080219190127.GA1106@muc.de> <877ih0o9dx.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <85k5kzhj0h.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203518054 26314 80.91.229.12 (20 Feb 2008 14:34:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:34:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Devel To: "David Kastrup" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 20 15:34:39 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JRq1f-0005nF-DD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:34:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRq1A-0003Vc-Fq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:33:52 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRq16-0003VL-Dw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:33:48 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRq15-0003Ty-0C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:33:48 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRq14-0003Tf-Ls for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:33:46 -0500 Original-Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.231]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JRq14-0007K7-8A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:33:46 -0500 Original-Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 58so41321wri.10 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:33:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=+Q1IjneixNy9AxaiQU3NVBhf1/7b1i5yUW/xoVzSeJg=; b=PobKtkrZ2Fqi9SAmagL0g3782t0R53NYnhlGIgyCtfROgQ7m/da6qqdDrR7I1MclGeVnQ1wwh0QYPTRaryWzF4snbHUU8zZhubaKusKnsLUk+q2HjMPOzMV74jYHP9h0LkMrJnMFMY3Ve4PoMmSyrESGABNeB6qp8u5HMSa0dxc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Vjod9J6JIQ69dneRgFlfSNg4C1HDz3OYwU7R5tPhEZitdtxA4xkvPxMqOpj3Ht4tw813WbP1ya+Rosh9ZeGEQAlC3RaqCoPBqrMNtjzJwNTlE/25vXZE1IZMTJlzLFwo44f/e4Ket+zY/eE96HZ5YI2jeXONk1Jo85CyQxwD93o= Original-Received: by 10.114.156.1 with SMTP id d1mr233542wae.68.1203518024439; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:33:44 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.115.72.13 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:33:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <85k5kzhj0h.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:89688 Archived-At: On Feb 20, 2008 2:09 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > No. What is most usable. We want Emacs to be the best editor > available, not the most similar to lesser products. It can be the best editor available even if some defaults (similar to those of "lesser products") make life easier for newbies. > Transient-mark-mode messes with the normal work flow (and the active > region) in a way that is not helpful. It is not even actually similar > to what other software does with regions. I was commenting on general policy; I don't particularly care about transient mark mode. > On deactivating something that he doesn't like? On Emacs. Juanma