From: "Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com>
To: "Sascha Wilde" <wilde@sha-bang.de>
Cc: Emacs Devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:52:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f7ccd24b0802200452n6d6ca25fla645ba0abb3d2a6c@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2d4qrertm.fsf@kenny.sha-bang.de>
On Feb 20, 2008 1:27 PM, Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de> wrote:
> One has to turn of more and more features, to get back the traditional
> Emacsian behavior (which I consider the best in many cases). The policy
> for Emacs once seemed to be (I don't recall if it was officially stated)
> to be rather puristic per default and leave it to the user to turn on
> all the bells and whistles and blinken light he wants.
IMO, defaults should be choosen, if possible, so the behavior is what
most new users would expect. An experienced user will research how to
deactivate something that he doesn't like. A newbie will perhaps just
give up.
The first time I tried Emacs I gave up because there wasn't an easy
way to make it save the current screen position and frame size (easy
as in "just activate this menu option"). And I didn't came from a
particularly windowsy, mouse-driven background, more like PDP-11's
RSX-11M, VAX/VMS, Oasis/Theos and other command-line oriented OSes.
Juanma
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-02-20 12:52 UTC|newest]
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2006-08-28 7:48 change cursor type when idle Drew Adams
2006-08-28 9:54 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-28 15:00 ` Drew Adams
2006-08-28 15:30 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-08-28 16:08 ` David Hansen
2006-08-28 16:09 ` Drew Adams
2006-08-28 16:21 ` Lennart Borgman
2006-08-28 16:58 ` Drew Adams
2006-08-28 21:27 ` Juri Linkov
2006-08-28 23:13 ` Drew Adams
2006-08-29 20:27 ` Juri Linkov
2006-08-29 20:51 ` Drew Adams
2006-08-29 13:51 ` Mathias Dahl
2006-08-29 13:59 ` Drew Adams
2006-08-29 20:17 ` Kevin Rodgers
2006-08-28 21:06 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-28 21:44 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-29 1:18 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-08-29 7:44 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-08-29 13:38 ` Drew Adams
2006-08-28 22:10 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-01 20:24 ` Drew Adams
2007-07-02 19:47 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-11 7:48 ` Drew Adams
2008-02-11 10:11 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-02-13 0:25 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-11 21:10 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-12 14:30 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-02-12 14:43 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-02-12 15:10 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-02-12 15:23 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-02-12 16:20 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-02-12 16:28 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-02-12 16:43 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-02-12 17:12 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-02-12 18:07 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-02-12 18:20 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-02-12 18:34 ` Drew Adams
2008-02-12 19:34 ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-12 21:45 ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-12 18:44 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-02-12 20:54 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-02-12 15:19 ` Drew Adams
2008-02-12 15:35 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-02-12 16:11 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-02-12 16:21 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-02-12 16:27 ` David Kastrup
2008-02-12 16:36 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-02-12 16:55 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-02-12 17:14 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-02-12 17:45 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-13 11:52 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-02-13 15:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-13 16:04 ` CUA-mode features and documenation (was: Re: change cursor type when idle) Kim F. Storm
2008-02-13 16:23 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-02-13 22:45 ` CUA-mode features and documenation Juri Linkov
2008-02-13 22:59 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-02-13 23:18 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-14 0:01 ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-14 0:50 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-14 0:58 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-02-14 1:12 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-14 18:10 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-15 17:11 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-02-17 13:22 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-17 18:05 ` Drew Adams
2008-02-18 11:40 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-18 13:44 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-02-18 15:52 ` Drew Adams
2008-02-17 19:51 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-17 22:24 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-02-17 22:30 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-18 13:48 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-02-17 13:22 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-17 16:58 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-02-17 18:06 ` Drew Adams
2008-02-18 11:40 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-19 8:52 ` Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default [Re: CUA-mode features and documenation] Alan Mackenzie
2008-02-19 9:38 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-02-19 19:01 ` Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default Alan Mackenzie
2008-02-19 20:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-19 22:43 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-19 23:45 ` Mathias Dahl
2008-02-19 23:49 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-02-20 0:12 ` David Kastrup
2008-02-20 0:19 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-02-20 0:30 ` David Kastrup
2008-02-20 0:49 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-02-20 7:48 ` David Kastrup
2008-02-20 0:16 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-20 3:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-20 9:56 ` Mathias Dahl
2008-02-20 16:32 ` CUA-*mode (was: Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default) Stefan Monnier
2008-02-20 17:27 ` Mathias Dahl
2008-02-20 8:59 ` Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default Richard Stallman
2008-02-20 12:27 ` Sascha Wilde
2008-02-20 12:52 ` Juanma Barranquero [this message]
2008-02-20 13:09 ` David Kastrup
2008-02-20 14:33 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-02-20 15:11 ` David Kastrup
2008-02-20 15:43 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-02-20 15:55 ` David Reitter
2008-02-20 16:04 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-02-20 16:27 ` David Reitter
2008-02-21 15:34 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-02-20 16:23 ` David Kastrup
2008-02-21 3:52 ` Provide different sets of .emacs [Was: Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default] William Xu
2008-02-21 4:04 ` Provide different sets of .emacs William Xu
2008-02-20 16:14 ` Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default Mathias Dahl
2008-02-20 16:27 ` David Kastrup
2008-02-20 17:21 ` Mathias Dahl
2008-02-20 17:30 ` David Kastrup
2008-02-20 20:48 ` Mathias Dahl
2008-02-20 21:07 ` David Kastrup
2008-02-20 16:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-20 17:00 ` David Kastrup
2008-02-20 17:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-20 19:30 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-20 20:09 ` David Kastrup
2008-02-20 20:41 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-21 17:45 ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-21 23:01 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-02-21 23:24 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-02-22 3:18 ` Miles Bader
[not found] ` <8e24944a0802212139r2bae3597ke49c5c6da65da445@mail.gmail.com>
2008-02-22 5:49 ` Fwd: " David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-22 22:57 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-23 0:09 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-23 0:31 ` Mike Mattie
2008-02-23 1:02 ` Drew Adams
2008-02-23 1:20 ` Bastien
2008-02-23 9:16 ` Sascha Wilde
2008-02-23 1:17 ` Bastien
2008-02-23 5:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-23 10:30 ` Bastien
2008-02-23 19:29 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-20 21:44 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-02-21 9:16 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-21 9:16 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-21 14:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-22 10:47 ` Bastien
2008-02-22 13:11 ` Sascha Wilde
2008-02-22 14:16 ` Bastien Guerry
2008-02-22 14:48 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-22 18:06 ` Bastien
2008-02-22 15:53 ` Sascha Wilde
2008-02-22 18:12 ` Bastien
2008-02-22 22:20 ` Mike Mattie
2008-02-22 23:09 ` Mike Mattie
2008-02-23 19:28 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-22 14:57 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-02-22 16:27 ` Leo
2008-02-22 22:57 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-21 22:28 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-20 17:35 ` Sascha Wilde
2008-02-20 18:04 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-02-20 19:02 ` Evans Winner
2008-02-20 21:13 ` Jason Earl
2008-02-20 21:24 ` David Kastrup
2008-02-20 22:46 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-21 7:30 ` martin rudalics
2008-02-21 22:29 ` scroll-restore.el Richard Stallman
2008-02-22 16:11 ` scroll-restore.el David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-22 19:32 ` scroll-restore.el martin rudalics
2008-02-22 19:41 ` scroll-restore.el David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-22 19:51 ` scroll-restore.el martin rudalics
2008-02-22 19:26 ` scroll-restore.el martin rudalics
2008-02-20 23:15 ` Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default Jason Earl
2008-02-20 23:30 ` David Kastrup
2008-02-21 0:42 ` Jason Earl
2008-02-21 9:57 ` David Kastrup
2008-02-21 14:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-21 14:41 ` David Kastrup
2008-02-21 16:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-21 16:26 ` David Kastrup
2008-02-21 17:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-21 17:38 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-21 17:52 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-21 21:45 ` David Kastrup
2008-02-21 22:24 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-21 17:27 ` Drew Adams
2008-02-21 22:25 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-21 22:59 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-02-21 23:17 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-21 23:22 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-02-21 23:39 ` Mathias Dahl
2008-02-21 23:45 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-02-21 23:10 ` Drew Adams
2008-02-22 10:07 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-02-22 12:19 ` Tassilo Horn
2008-02-22 12:28 ` David Kastrup
2008-02-22 22:57 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-22 23:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-23 0:03 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-23 0:14 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-02-23 8:04 ` Mathias Dahl
2008-02-23 0:04 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-23 19:29 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-23 0:14 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-23 0:21 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-23 0:46 ` Should M-SPC respect `sentence-end-double-space'? Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-23 0:46 ` Paul Pogonyshev
2008-02-23 3:23 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-23 0:52 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-23 3:11 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-23 3:47 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-23 8:33 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-23 15:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-23 17:01 ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-21 22:28 ` Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default Richard Stallman
2008-03-01 22:15 ` Glenn Morris
2008-03-01 22:40 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-03-02 2:56 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-02 17:25 ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-02 5:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-02 16:09 ` Juri Linkov
2008-03-02 17:25 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-21 9:16 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-21 12:07 ` Robert J. Chassell
2008-02-20 21:15 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-21 9:16 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-21 15:55 ` Luc Teirlinck
2008-02-22 3:31 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-22 22:57 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-23 0:08 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-02-21 22:27 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-20 19:09 ` Drew Adams
2008-02-21 0:10 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-21 22:28 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-23 11:00 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-02-20 20:01 ` Tentative diagnosis of TMM's problem. [Re: Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default] Alan Mackenzie
2008-02-20 20:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-20 22:16 ` Tentative diagnosis of TMM's problem. [Re: Enabling TransientMark " Drew Adams
2008-02-20 22:32 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-02-20 22:45 ` Drew Adams
2008-02-21 1:09 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-21 1:44 ` Drew Adams
2008-02-21 8:05 ` Sven Joachim
2008-02-21 0:13 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-21 1:44 ` Drew Adams
2008-02-21 4:56 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-21 22:28 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-21 17:46 ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-21 22:28 ` Tentative diagnosis of Transient Mark mode's " Richard Stallman
2008-02-21 8:19 ` Tentative diagnosis of TMM's " Alan Mackenzie
2008-02-21 9:43 ` Tentative diagnosis of TMM's problem. [Re: Enabling TransientMarkMode " Drew Adams
2008-02-21 10:54 ` David Kastrup
2008-02-21 17:10 ` Drew Adams
2008-02-21 19:28 ` Sascha Wilde
2008-02-21 21:42 ` David Kastrup
2008-02-22 11:58 ` Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default Robert J. Chassell
2008-02-22 14:49 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-22 16:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-21 10:59 ` Tentative diagnosis of TMM's problem. [Re: Enabling TransientMarkMode by default] Andreas Schwab
2008-02-21 16:55 ` Drew Adams
2008-02-21 22:29 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-21 8:05 ` Tentative diagnosis of TMM's problem. [Re: Enabling Transient Mark Mode " Alan Mackenzie
2008-02-21 14:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-21 17:44 ` Tentative diagnosis of TMM's problem Johan Bockgård
2008-02-21 19:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-21 22:38 ` Johan Bockgård
2008-02-22 1:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-21 9:16 ` Tentative diagnosis of TMM's problem. [Re: Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default] Richard Stallman
2008-02-23 11:34 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-02-24 0:53 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-20 21:27 ` Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default Juri Linkov
2008-02-19 9:48 ` Enabling Transient Mark Mode by default [Re: CUA-mode features and documenation] David Kastrup
2008-02-17 18:11 ` CUA-mode features and documenation David De La Harpe Golden
2008-02-14 1:54 ` Leo
2008-02-13 22:00 ` change cursor type when idle Richard Stallman
2008-02-14 13:16 ` Kim F. Storm
2008-02-15 0:03 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-12 19:31 ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-12 21:23 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-12 21:42 ` Juri Linkov
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