From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Juanma Barranquero" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:28:46 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20071230122217.3CA84830B9A@snark.thyrsus.com> <4pd9g15e.fsf@blue.sea.net> <874pd92ias.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87y7al11a1.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1200860944 31123 80.91.229.12 (20 Jan 2008 20:29:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:29:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Miles Bader" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 20 21:29:23 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JGgnB-0004X1-5a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:29:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JGgml-0000VL-Mj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:28:55 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JGgmh-0000UW-SE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:28:51 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JGgmg-0000TW-AG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:28:51 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JGgmg-0000TH-2W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:28:50 -0500 Original-Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.182]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JGgmf-0005yh-It for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:28:50 -0500 Original-Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k34so3241477wah.10 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:28:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=51buywtjv3VdjfwWG5lO7m4ckUeKXqBGgRKkjB/ZrGs=; b=IJnYjmsvYK4H5+Q9FhQ3vuemvYDvKPS761aLW9+FmDrVot836y9t2IH429wZJA1BGM3TqzU7ItLnsbaL2OJo4XvpasALTwrRjtYydBL5MS77fUCcCnMeDp3PyRMsrHxfGS/6vTdCXTn7MecSkglP8mKZW5On6k2lVeYVvgBpvXI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=t0uRKJ+Ac6tAdIFeYOOB1ep/EHMJlILCzq89/gXf0idfORMCQ6PsrD+FvOUvtsObJyvUteVEJ1TNdjIFi9iPrJ/7ZUgIpdHvIT107kh7HXBTahplAIl/gS+d0yjyAbRocaEvKlZZ2Mb9tm6aJF69fH5W3TVtMxf7d36BTmlN6qo= Original-Received: by 10.115.95.1 with SMTP id x1mr3558675wal.94.1200860926739; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:28:46 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.115.72.13 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:28:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87y7al11a1.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:87124 Archived-At: [Sorry for the previous empty message] > Yes, obviously in the long run, the msys git port will probably be > preferable to the majority of developers. What you say above seems to > indicate it's further along than I realized. Well. Most basic things work: you can clone, commit, rebase, pull, push, handle branches, etc. The basic workflow is there. What I tried to say is not that git on Windows is near completion, but that, were Emacs to switch to git, the msysGit functionality would be enough for Windows developers not to be left in the cold (that was my primary worry; whether we switch to git or mercurial or bazaar or monotone, I don't particularly care). > When Eric finishes his "article", it will be something to consider, but > please don't give the impression that it will be some kind of definitive > statement on the issue. Eric, besides having rather obvious lack of > experience with many of these systems, has already shown clear biases. I wasn't trying to give that impression. But as obviously Eric is investing effort both to show better ways for the Emacs project (whether what he points is better or not is open to discussion, but it would be unfair to negate that he's trying to Do Good) and to evaluate alternatives, I think it would be polite to at least hear him. Of course he's biased. Aren't we all? > It's very hard for even somebody trying hard to be objective to do a > good job of such a comparison. I don't think we need a good general comparison; more like a good comparison from people who has a working knowledge of the dVCS tools and, most important, knows about Emacs development. Juanma