From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Juanma Barranquero" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why Emacs needs a modern bug tracker Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 17:33:29 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20080104164454.0A4BD830697@snark.thyrsus.com> <20080104232514.GB2735@muc.de> <87r6gxoyjv.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199550836 17687 80.91.229.12 (5 Jan 2008 16:33:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 16:33:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Eli Zaretskii" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 05 17:34:13 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JBByM-0008Kc-US for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:34:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBBxy-00037B-GI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 11:33:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBBxv-000376-98 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 11:33:43 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JBBxq-00034R-KG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 11:33:42 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JBBxq-00034L-Gw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 11:33:38 -0500 Original-Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.181]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JBBxp-0007hi-RM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 11:33:38 -0500 Original-Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k34so11138921wah.10 for ; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 08:33:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=vw5INiw56v85iBaVugncca/oHdFMABfhn+HZCP3NYEQ=; b=HtTsAXk45uByDw7ihi/kyyXhOmrjA8iKWJgkGG9UBzHE9viusC0hzJs7cG9VbqtebbYixsaSft4nsGPjlvOCHGvyGbTpIsdun9bvqIgaf1md0PgqBRLH/TZwYKwI6LGI787r2Pl60FsSu4rEVZo/BpfZouqxmfQkuoOHRgWZles= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pXH1JW05Yqff30Z40Z9GLyso+z0g08xyo8M6YAAPTVH5QJm7zPEf0Adqt3Gh6lq+904mkpOkEAVv/xwzNw+MgXJWB6SGMGIUK8dlv2ccPDj6nK3YAIzrGkuQlxxCFzE6HNHFiVft+C2U9L3SHUJUODiIJyjd/qFoyC/jJR/wwX8= Original-Received: by 10.115.79.1 with SMTP id g1mr20238904wal.2.1199550809925; Sat, 05 Jan 2008 08:33:29 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.115.72.13 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Jan 2008 08:33:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:86192 Archived-At: On Jan 5, 2008 4:38 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > That might be so, but I challenge you (and other proponents of change) > to break the vicious circle by making things happen. FWIW, Eric clearly stated in the first few messages of this thread that he was willing to work to "make things happen". Juanma