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From: "Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com>
To: "Stefan Monnier" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: `*' interactive spec in some text-killing functions
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 16:16:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f7ccd24b0706280716p1aaac7d8qd317498cd4c520c6@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvk5tob48c.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

On 6/28/07, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:

> The result is not irrelevant because you may do C-x C-q afterwards.

Yes, and David (before embarking on a crusade to convince me of what
do I find confusing, or why I shouldn't) already pointed out an
example of how switching to overwrite in a read-only buffer can
sometimes be useful. I don't know how common is, but it is certainly
useful.

> But maybe a little warning reminding the user that the buffer is not yet
> writable could be added.

Well, thanks! That was exactly my point: that it could warn "Buffer is
read-only".

> It doesn't seem tremendously useful, tho: she'll
> figure it out soon enough.

Agreed: it's not tremendously useful, not even very useful; just nice
to some people, newbies perhaps. That's why I've been using the PgUp
example: the warning about "Beginning of buffer" is not very useful,
but it can be helpful to a newbie that suddenly doesn't understand why
the buffer is not scrolling. David and others have reminded me a
couple times or four that the read-only status is visible on the
modeline. And it is: `--' turns into  `%%', or `-*' to `-%'. Not the
most conspicuous of clues, if you're new to Emacs, I think.

Thanks,

             Juanma

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-06-28 14:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-27 13:39 `*' interactive spec in some text-killing functions Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-27 14:08 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-27 14:25   ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-27 14:55     ` David Kastrup
2007-06-27 15:52       ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-27 16:22     ` Andreas Schwab
2007-06-27 18:43       ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-27 20:59         ` David Kastrup
2007-06-27 21:30           ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-27 22:04             ` David Kastrup
2007-06-27 22:11               ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-27 22:24                 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-27 22:43                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-27 23:13                     ` David Kastrup
2007-06-27 23:22                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-28  5:23                         ` David Kastrup
2007-06-28  7:51                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-28  8:07                             ` David Kastrup
2007-06-28  8:15                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-28  8:25                                 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-28  8:41                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-28  9:04                                     ` David Kastrup
2007-06-28  9:09                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-28  9:16                                         ` David Kastrup
2007-06-28  9:22                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-28  9:48                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2007-06-28 10:21                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-28 11:14                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-06-28 11:33                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-28 10:55                                             ` David Kastrup
2007-06-28 14:03                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-28 14:12                                       ` David Kastrup
2007-06-28 14:16                                       ` Juanma Barranquero [this message]
2007-06-28 14:30                                         ` David Kastrup
2007-06-28 14:39                                         ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2007-06-28 14:51                                           ` David Kastrup
2007-06-28 15:21                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2007-06-28 15:38                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-28 22:07                                           ` Mathias Dahl
2007-06-28 22:20                                             ` David Kastrup
2007-06-28 22:31                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-28 16:25                                       ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-06-28 15:08                                     ` Davis Herring
2007-06-28 15:22                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-28  8:47                                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-06-28  9:11                                   ` David Kastrup

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