From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Juanma Barranquero" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: EmacsW32 invocation options Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 05:04:08 +0200 Message-ID: References: <59osrdF2m97hgU1@mid.individual.net> <4637A396.9000300@gmail.com> <46383B57.6050508@gmail.com> <4638EE03.8000602@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178334270 22263 80.91.229.12 (5 May 2007 03:04:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 03:04:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: "Kim F. Storm" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 05 05:04:29 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HkAZQ-0000Io-Jk for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 05:04:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HkAg5-0002D7-QL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 23:11:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HkAfr-0002Af-Lz for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 23:11:07 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HkAfp-0002A3-44 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 23:11:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HkAfo-0002A0-V1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 23:11:05 -0400 Original-Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.226]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HkAZ6-0007xa-Vr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 23:04:09 -0400 Original-Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s17so972178wxc for ; Fri, 04 May 2007 20:04:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pgCt/SMsULjQCsQYmNg0sVYcnl7K9mCnD6N+BnJghxH51DkP7tW5p8mtLype6sED61wp0/2qShtECPEmdlcHm7CHr0XwxoN8MlbPpRFg+taAMf1A037ZwdhUww7bjJtcbRVAOD5AcXv/DaQY2JJPB5tKlvL08hoDPl3i2iPctyQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hLQfgrf+9m2Yj4wORRCYrZlNSxJzM/HJnkgpVWs6rxHq6+dLhlPg1ejuVQfO+Px+GdpGdKV6UCNzvOB/BTsFku1QIq6Bskxp0Uoo40OTcqG7OmtowO6TLBevzJulKvQ2I1V/jpXAf7dYlLdlppzKQkhre+aK5moc88YJWWJN/uQ= Original-Received: by 10.90.106.11 with SMTP id e11mr3928625agc.1178334248343; Fri, 04 May 2007 20:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.90.103.8 with HTTP; Fri, 4 May 2007 20:04:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43711 Archived-At: On 5/5/07, Kim F. Storm wrote: > but the discussion was going around > in circles Yes. In a previous post Eli has described the process quite accurately. > and was becoming quite personal. Personal? > Accusing Lennart of being > destructive was unjustified IMHO. And accusing Eli of the same wasn't? I'm sitting here waiting for you to say to Lennart the same you said to me... > Neither am I :-) Your command of English is obviously much better than mine (I'm self-taught, after all), but as I've said, I choose to use "destructive" for a specific reason; that was no slip. > IMO, we have to balance this "cross-platform consistency" with the > user's expectation of "Emacs working seamlessly on _my_ platform". There are specific limits to that balance. For example, if I'm not mistaken, RMS forbids changes that would give Emacs an advantage on Windows over GNU/Linux or other free operating systems. > So why don't we try to find ways to accomodate people like Lennart who > really wants to contribute, but whose ideas are too radical to be the > default behaviour? Perhaps you're right, but here we aren't discussing a radical idea, just an half-cooked one (IMO, etc.). Juanma