From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Juanma Barranquero" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: EmacsW32 invocation options Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 10:41:43 +0200 Message-ID: References: <59osrdF2m97hgU1@mid.individual.net> <4637A396.9000300@gmail.com> <87zm4mw7hj.fsf@gmail.com> <878xc6uois.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178268219 28235 80.91.229.12 (4 May 2007 08:43:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 08:43:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: "Eli Zaretskii" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 04 10:43:38 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HjtO6-0004sp-9L for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 10:43:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HjtUi-0007tr-2F for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 04:50:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HjtSx-0006iH-Ix for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 04:48:39 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HjtSt-0006ey-Io for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 04:48:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HjtSt-0006eF-5R for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 04:48:35 -0400 Original-Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.238]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HjtMG-0005lM-3j for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 04:41:44 -0400 Original-Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s17so720354wxc for ; Fri, 04 May 2007 01:41:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dtJmTdRlOFaf4ktFt3oT7+NBzIWE8KiQnX8bXWD0/mj5wn8e7u4DLw+vAmGm8qle7I3qsFoBN/Dz2o48507nB6/4N/Pu6yW5djsY1bl08NPNvsG+NP6uTPget244EWFWoJUUez/9b6HPAtzx4lZvGCcVoi+D+aQbe1EthW27Vtc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hIvV6v4mIZG4XPwNBd+AO0toKg1tMXFUKYE0f98fo7bQZI6Vu5bGAuHzIYSwDy59+YHNG/x2SPHR0B6fDX4GdWH4AHDX2IRIVRMsHwV7RDe54ksKiLba4FbYmmxg7K2dU/PY5jiIdMNQIajQ5xo7WzAKYeyUK1+Ga0HbNosRiXE= Original-Received: by 10.90.25.3 with SMTP id 3mr2842708agy.1178268103513; Fri, 04 May 2007 01:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.90.103.8 with HTTP; Fri, 4 May 2007 01:41:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43647 Archived-At: On 5/4/07, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > As things frequently are with changes suggested by Lennart that other > developers don't like, Lennart will continue arguing and will not > accept differing opinions or modify his suggestions according to > comments he receives, no matter what. And finally he will incorporate these changes into his distro and claim that without them Emacs is too complicate or lacking essential functionality. Which I don't think it's true. > When such endless and futile > arguments go out of control, it is quite possible that someone would > say "additional thought" meaning "not now, and I don't care when". Funnily enough, that wasn't even the case in that discussion. IIRC, most people commenting in the original thread *wanted* the functionality. No one was suggesting it was bad, just underdesigned and/or not cleanly implemented *for the moment being*. Juanma