From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Juanma Barranquero" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: EmacsW32 invocation options Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 10:15:13 +0200 Message-ID: References: <59osrdF2m97hgU1@mid.individual.net> <4637A396.9000300@gmail.com> <46383B57.6050508@gmail.com> <4638EE03.8000602@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178180142 30684 80.91.229.12 (3 May 2007 08:15:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 08:15:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: "Brian Elmegaard" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 03 10:15:40 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HjWTN-0008By-BF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 May 2007 10:15:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HjWZs-0002um-2W for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 May 2007 04:22:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HjWZb-0002ol-L5 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 03 May 2007 04:21:59 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HjWZa-0002oZ-3E for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 03 May 2007 04:21:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HjWZZ-0002oW-VP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 03 May 2007 04:21:58 -0400 Original-Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.224]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HjWT4-0006j8-7r for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 03 May 2007 04:15:14 -0400 Original-Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s17so385213wxc for ; Thu, 03 May 2007 01:15:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CRPEqg3lAxtjUX1dqhYGIzc1UYR9FJbiNcRpl9zLbJOfrpqkcY0htFq4qFL/0TpkbTXdtJ8fbl1cGXwQdv6npnexs+ReF2a760K2WpBtSA7hkwzbFLWLH6saHb758u7Gk/RXH0GEzvLrWBMt4VmqRzzShYtgMR/Nm/qEHN1PMG0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=n/NV2yuucL6YsLyKMn1YXn6lY7/pavYZbH6C2lIp4GCaDPHvRC3HYj3RBnvqGm9K2HImAEm/j2zaTFOBv2PpICK3kFCO7Sa7Ihgdo1NcabsDYkdwQg1WZBoPI6+vccg5Zxp4UJYpyDXqzIv8eRh8JMEujSdNqmKiuem3xV1CtUc= Original-Received: by 10.90.101.19 with SMTP id y19mr1437815agb.1178180113717; Thu, 03 May 2007 01:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.90.87.8 with HTTP; Thu, 3 May 2007 01:15:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43575 Archived-At: On 5/3/07, Brian Elmegaard wrote: >>From a short google on groups it seems that the emacs developers find > emacsW32 ("EmacsW32 is not Emacs for MS Windows. Instead it is an > add-on to Emacs for MS Windows.") worse than aquamacs ("Aquamacs > features extensive customization: it will feel and behave mostly like > an Aqua program"). I know nothing about Aquamacs, so I cannot say. The point, anyway, is not whether the program has features which help it to blend with its environment. I'm arguing that Emacs on Windows is not harder to use or learn that Emacs on GNU/Linux or other environments, so changes to "help the user" seem like gratuitous divergences to me unless there's a *specific* need (window manager integration, keyboard handling, etc.). Juanma