From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Juanma Barranquero" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: EmacsW32 invocation options Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 16:00:00 +0200 Message-ID: References: <59osrdF2m97hgU1@mid.individual.net> <4637A396.9000300@gmail.com> <46383B57.6050508@gmail.com> <87ejlzjv27.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178114415 10093 80.91.229.12 (2 May 2007 14:00:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 14:00:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Hadron Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 02 16:00:14 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HjFNN-0006Yq-RI for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 May 2007 16:00:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HjFTn-000828-8m for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 May 2007 10:06:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HjFTb-000823-Rr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 May 2007 10:06:39 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HjFTb-00081r-D6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 May 2007 10:06:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HjFTb-00081o-A4 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 May 2007 10:06:39 -0400 Original-Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.236]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HjFNB-0003iE-5H for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 May 2007 10:00:01 -0400 Original-Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s17so123552wxc for ; Wed, 02 May 2007 07:00:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PwCPuqENimCbnJL7TXvuyucejYwwPaoDiJcZPZM0kt/u6IVPbGZeYI4ZPfd37tP/6LK+WLx682VTlX/4IpIgqqufPagOPCCC9ZB7t9s+kgghVIvuDKfqFI9dpc/5VoKACdsqnpvtaOS1clEnKDvsmw+TcmR3ouMHKw51u/qWopY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uPMlGKGSpZ6HHBBnlkYq8pzpmU9JzPeMry6jMjgEiQuXHff/DMzmc7RpoPji1HYq/ygKubj755fMzdK3JMJcFuYL9k6J0uGfc9rBmxwgVtzaA0TaccUh69Y9TAp9busUOCpZ8dOjPeP01HBOLGcUdnRFNcq9SelF69XNBAGI3Do= Original-Received: by 10.90.98.3 with SMTP id v3mr373641agb.1178114400229; Wed, 02 May 2007 07:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.90.87.8 with HTTP; Wed, 2 May 2007 07:00:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87ejlzjv27.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43500 Archived-At: On 5/2/07, Hadron wrote: > Is there a solid reason NOT to start the server automatically if someone > starts a client? Yes. You can read the discussions in the emacs-devel list (those that Lennart seems to think never happened). Basically, for the client to be able to start the server, either you put too much "inteligence" in the client, or you have a way to clearly specify how to pass that info from the client to the server. I'm quite sure there's a clean way to do that, and I'm also quite sure it's not the one in EmacsW32-*, at least the last time I took a look at it. Also, there's another good reason NOT to start the server automatically: there was *not enough* time during the Emacs 22 freeze/pretest to properly develop that feature (hell, we were on the verge of simply *not* supporting emacsclient on Windows at all, and I know that for a fact). Lennart's rolled his own, which means that either we're forced to follow his path, even if we don't like it, or to do an incompatible change later. Juanma