From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Juanma Barranquero" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: EmacsW32 invocation options Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 12:21:12 +0200 Message-ID: References: <59osrdF2m97hgU1@mid.individual.net> <4637A396.9000300@gmail.com> <46383B57.6050508@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178101345 27801 80.91.229.12 (2 May 2007 10:22:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 10:22:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 02 12:22:21 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HjByX-0002aL-9E for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 May 2007 12:22:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HjC4u-000786-Ca for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 May 2007 06:28:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HjC3u-00076s-3S for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 May 2007 06:27:54 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HjC3r-00074C-9y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 May 2007 06:27:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HjC3q-000735-9v for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 May 2007 06:27:50 -0400 Original-Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.230]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HjBxR-0004dg-1V for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 May 2007 06:21:13 -0400 Original-Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s17so66078wxc for ; Wed, 02 May 2007 03:21:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=R8aAy4Z4GuVzq/gzvP/DMV2NhAMK+x0GtWrrxCWTVJ+Av5MgTU0UQlZXK12C9qT6hp9xpg8DaC99pQy64ZENtGIzCWNMzSCGpVfVznLnnkgPHw8s8HNpMR90BGKYM+TyyPgJSLSd/rv7PU15T+7mrmllRifiPqAMwl1Y5Ctev7E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=igEVhSCup2hi0z93m8taiaD7r/I76WCJ7ZUGXlnCDo1iFRERycgI5nCwSU2xUSQUFHvZpPdbMK545Z7pMVYPI9I18BVG/mCXcIEs3zMyy6aIQ2QX8mkE7UiuOvpJGg/urOCKncL/HWWpiNQMuAldIgHSgo5XL/h7CnzvQW7kV6c= Original-Received: by 10.90.81.14 with SMTP id e14mr162853agb.1178101272250; Wed, 02 May 2007 03:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.90.87.8 with HTTP; Wed, 2 May 2007 03:21:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <46383B57.6050508@gmail.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 (Google crawlbot) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43477 Archived-At: On 5/2/07, Lennart Borgman (gmail) wrote: > You know very well, Eli, that we have discussed if Emacs server should > be started automatically when Emacs client is invoked. I have offered > the code that does so, but you are one of those that did not want that > code to be in Emacs at the moment. I'm obviously not Eli, but I think there were good reasons for not wanting the code in Emacs at the present. For one, althought I like the functionality, I think it could benefit from some more discussion; also, I don't like the implementation. > I think it is one of the important features in the patched version that > makes it quite a bit easier to get started using Emacs for new users. I don't think "quite a bit easier" is a fair description. We're talking of the difficulty of starting Emacs as a server before using emacsclient. Hardly rocket science. > Not one single of the new users have complained about this. Users who enter Emacs through your distribution don't know it is currently supposed to be different. Why should they complain, unless it causes problems (which is not the same that being better, of course)? And I seem to remember at least a few bug reports... Juanma