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From: "Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: Customize doc strings and tagstrings do not respect \\<...> and \\[...]]
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:49:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f7ccd24b0702160149r6c255607he69483744c4469f1@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1HHxn1-0004H1-4k@fencepost.gnu.org>

On 2/16/07, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:

> What did I say that about?

The case where "Blah blah \\<some-map>\\[some-command] more blah blah"
turns into

 Blah blah
 Uses keymap "some-map", which is not currently defined.
 more blah blah

>     Do you consider using \\<some-mode-map> in the docstring of an
>     autoloaded function a bug in the mode?
>
> Not particularly, but how does that relate?

Because I agree with you that if you load a package, and a docstring
from that package contains the above problem, it is a bug in the
package; but this problem often happens for autoloaded functions,
where not having the relevant mode-map at hand while consulting  a
docstring is quite normal. If you think that's an error in the package
(as opposed to an error in `describe-function', `describe-variable',
etc.), that would mean making sure that no autoloaded function ever
references a mode-map with \\<mode-map>

> Is this the sort of output about which I said, "Any clueful user will
> realize it means the mode has a bug and will report it, and then
> things will be fixed so they really work."?

Yes.

> If so, I think that is true.  If the mode produces this output,
> it's a bug, and because it is visible it will get fixed.

`checkdoc-minor-mode' is autoloaded, so it's a case like the ones I
talk above. Either we make it not reference the mode-map, or we
implement something like the "prominent notice" scheme I'm suggesting.

> That seems like a good solution too, since it will also make the bug
> visible.

Great.

             Juanma

  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-16  9:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-27  8:59 [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: Customize doc strings and tag strings do not respect \\<...> and \\[...]] Richard Stallman
2006-03-04 14:57 ` Chong Yidong
2006-03-04 17:55   ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: Customize doc strings and tagstrings " Drew Adams
2006-03-04 21:36     ` Andreas Schwab
2006-03-04 22:14       ` Drew Adams
2006-03-05 10:17         ` Andreas Schwab
2006-03-05 15:30           ` Drew Adams
2006-03-05 15:44             ` Andreas Schwab
2006-03-06  0:49           ` Richard Stallman
2006-03-06 13:13             ` Andreas Schwab
2006-03-06 22:48               ` Richard Stallman
2006-03-05 11:05         ` Andreas Schwab
2006-03-06  0:49         ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-15 11:44           ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-02-16  7:45             ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-16  9:49               ` Juanma Barranquero [this message]
2007-02-17  1:03                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-02-17  1:23                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-03-08 20:49         ` Kevin Rodgers
2006-03-08 21:28           ` Drew Adams
2006-03-27 17:09             ` Per Abrahamsen
2006-03-27 23:51               ` [drew.adams@oracle.com: RE: Customize doc strings andtagstrings " Drew Adams
2006-03-29  8:12                 ` Richard Stallman

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