How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?

How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?

[Ronald]

a built-in method is better 

Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?

[Leo]

* [2006.12.10] Ronald wrote:
               ^^^^^^
> a built-in method is better 

'C-h n' and read the entry about full-screen. You might find something
useful.

-- 
Leo

Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?

[Ronald]

Leo wrote:
> * [2006.12.10] Ronald wrote:
>                ^^^^^^
>> a built-in method is better 
> 
> 'C-h n' and read the entry about full-screen. You might find something
> useful.
> 
There is nothing about this.

Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?

[Hadron Quark]

Ronald <followait@163.com> writes:

> Leo wrote:
>> * [2006.12.10] Ronald wrote:
>>                ^^^^^^
>>> a built-in method is better 
>>
>> 'C-h n' and read the entry about full-screen. You might find something
>> useful.
>>
> There is nothing about this.

I have "--fullscreen" on my start icon.

Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?

[Ronald]

Hadron Quark wrote:
> Ronald <followait@163.com> writes:
> 
>> Leo wrote:
>>> * [2006.12.10] Ronald wrote:
>>>                ^^^^^^
>>>> a built-in method is better 
>>> 'C-h n' and read the entry about full-screen. You might find something
>>> useful.
>>>
>> There is nothing about this.
> 
> I have "--fullscreen" on my start icon.

I'm not using a XEmacs, and it doesn't support this parameter.

Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?

[Hadron Quark]

Ronald <followait@163.com> writes:

> Hadron Quark wrote:
>> Ronald <followait@163.com> writes:
>>
>>> Leo wrote:
>>>> * [2006.12.10] Ronald wrote:
>>>>                ^^^^^^
>>>>> a built-in method is better 
>>>> 'C-h n' and read the entry about full-screen. You might find something
>>>> useful.
>>>>
>>> There is nothing about this.
>>
>> I have "--fullscreen" on my start icon.
>
> I'm not using a XEmacs, and it doesn't support this parameter.

Unfortunately my crystal ball is broken so I can't really help any further.

-- 

Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?

[Leo]

* [2006.12.11 06:56 +0800] Ronald wrote:
                           ^^^^^^
> I'm not using a XEmacs, and it doesn't support this parameter.

Fullscreen is supported in GNU Emacs 22 and later.

-- 
Leo

Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?

[Lennart Borgman]

Leo wrote:
> * [2006.12.11 06:56 +0800] Ronald wrote:
>                            ^^^^^^
>   
>> I'm not using a XEmacs, and it doesn't support this parameter.
>>     
>
> Fullscreen is supported in GNU Emacs 22 and later.
>   

Note however that this does not mean "maximized" on MS Windows.

Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?

[Ronald]

Leo wrote:
> * [2006.12.11 06:56 +0800] Ronald wrote:
>                            ^^^^^^
>> I'm not using a XEmacs, and it doesn't support this parameter.
> 
> Fullscreen is supported in GNU Emacs 22 and later.
> 

Are you kidding?
The lastest version by far is 21.x.

Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?

[Dieter Wilhelm]

Ronald <followait@163.com> writes:

> Leo wrote:
>> * [2006.12.11 06:56 +0800] Ronald wrote:
>>                            ^^^^^^
>>> I'm not using a XEmacs, and it doesn't support this parameter.
>>
>> Fullscreen is supported in GNU Emacs 22 and later.
>>
>
> Are you kidding?
> The lastest version by far is 21.x.

Officially you're right, but he meant the developer (CVS) version of
Emacs and this is going to be Emacs 22.  Either build it from the
sources or google for the some precompiled packages of Emacs 22 for
most OSs.  Many User (including me) are using already this version for
their day to day work.

-- 
    Best wishes

    H. Dieter Wilhelm
    Darmstadt, Germany

Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?

[Person]

Lennart Borgman wrote:
> Leo wrote:
>> * [2006.12.11 06:56 +0800] Ronald wrote:
>>                            ^^^^^^
>>   
>>> I'm not using a XEmacs, and it doesn't support this parameter.
>>>     
>>
>> Fullscreen is supported in GNU Emacs 22 and later.
>>   
> 
> Note however that this does not mean "maximized" on MS Windows.

I am using the Windows version of 22.0.50.1 and I have wondered the 
same thing under XP Pro. Setting the "Run: maximized" shortcut 
property does nothing, and starting Emacs via:

C:\Emacs\bin\runemacs.exe --fullscreen

results in bad behavior - Emacs does not seem to realize that there 
is a toolbar at the bottom of the screen and hence starts with the 
minibuffer hidden behind it. Is there a Windows-safe version of 
--fullscreen?

Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?

[Leo]

* [2006.12.11 00:21 -0600] Person wrote:
                           ^^^^^^
[...]
> I am using the Windows version of 22.0.50.1 and I have wondered the
> same thing under XP Pro. Setting the "Run: maximized" shortcut
> property does nothing, and starting Emacs via:
>
> C:\Emacs\bin\runemacs.exe --fullscreen
>
> results in bad behavior - Emacs does not seem to realize that there is
> a toolbar at the bottom of the screen and hence starts with the
> minibuffer hidden behind it. Is there a Windows-safe version of
> --fullscreen?

That is because:

* [2006.12.11 00:54 +0100] Lennart Borgman wrote:
                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[...]
>> Fullscreen is supported in GNU Emacs 22 and later.
>>   
>
> Note however that this does not mean "maximized" on MS Windows.

-- 
Leo <sdl.web AT gmail.com>                         (GPG Key: 9283AA3F)

Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?

[Gian Uberto Lauri]

>>>>> "R" == Ronald  <followait@163.com> writes:

R> Leo wrote:
>> * [2006.12.11 06:56 +0800] Ronald wrote: ^^^^^^
>>> I'm not using a XEmacs, and it doesn't support this parameter.
>> 
>> Fullscreen is supported in GNU Emacs 22 and later.
>> 

R> Are you kidding?
R> The lastest version by far is 21.x.

Nope, he's using CVS :)

-- 
 /\           ___
/___/\_|_|\_|__|___Gian Uberto Lauri_____
  //--\| | \|  |   Integralista GNUslamico
\/                 e coltivatore diretto di Software

Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?

[Person]

Leo wrote:
> * [2006.12.11 00:21 -0600] Person wrote:
>                            ^^^^^^
> [...]
>> I am using the Windows version of 22.0.50.1 and I have wondered the
>> same thing under XP Pro. Setting the "Run: maximized" shortcut
>> property does nothing, and starting Emacs via:
>>
>> C:\Emacs\bin\runemacs.exe --fullscreen
>>
>> results in bad behavior - Emacs does not seem to realize that there is
>> a toolbar at the bottom of the screen and hence starts with the
>> minibuffer hidden behind it. Is there a Windows-safe version of
>> --fullscreen?
> 
> That is because:
> 
> * [2006.12.11 00:54 +0100] Lennart Borgman wrote:
>                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> [...]
>>> Fullscreen is supported in GNU Emacs 22 and later.
>>>   
>>
>> Note however that this does not mean "maximized" on MS Windows.

Yes, I saw that, that's why I was asking.  Are you saying "no, there 
is no Windows-safe version of --fullscreen"?

Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?

[Juanma Barranquero]

On 12/11/06, Person <facetious_nickname@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Is there a Windows-safe version of
> --fullscreen?

I'd suggest adding

  Emacs.Fullscreen: both
  Emacs.Geometry: 100x50   ; use suitable width x height for your display

to the HKLM\GNU\Emacs registry key, and this to .emacs:

  (add-hook 'window-setup-hook
            #'(lambda () (w32-send-sys-command ?\xF030)))

                    /L/e/k/t/u

Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?

[Lennart Borgman]

Person wrote:
> Leo wrote:
>> * [2006.12.11 00:21 -0600] Person wrote:
>>                            ^^^^^^
>> [...]
>>> I am using the Windows version of 22.0.50.1 and I have wondered the
>>> same thing under XP Pro. Setting the "Run: maximized" shortcut
>>> property does nothing, and starting Emacs via:
>>>
>>> C:\Emacs\bin\runemacs.exe --fullscreen
>>>
>>> results in bad behavior - Emacs does not seem to realize that there is
>>> a toolbar at the bottom of the screen and hence starts with the
>>> minibuffer hidden behind it. Is there a Windows-safe version of
>>> --fullscreen?
>>
>> That is because:
>>
>> * [2006.12.11 00:54 +0100] Lennart Borgman wrote:
>>                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> [...]
>>>> Fullscreen is supported in GNU Emacs 22 and later.
>>>>   
>>>
>>> Note however that this does not mean "maximized" on MS Windows.
>
> Yes, I saw that, that's why I was asking.  Are you saying "no, there 
> is no Windows-safe version of --fullscreen"?
Instead of --fullscreen you may try to put

        (w32-send-sys-command 61488)

in .emacs. This should maximize the frame (or rather nearly maximize the 
frame since Emacs does not really support maximized windows on MS 
Windows yet).

Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?

[Person]

Juanma Barranquero wrote:
> On 12/11/06, Person <facetious_nickname@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Is there a Windows-safe version of
>> --fullscreen?
> 
> I'd suggest adding
> 
>   Emacs.Fullscreen: both
>   Emacs.Geometry: 100x50   ; use suitable width x height for your display
> 
> to the HKLM\GNU\Emacs registry key, and this to .emacs:
> 
>   (add-hook 'window-setup-hook
>             #'(lambda () (w32-send-sys-command ?\xF030)))

Thank you (and Lennart): I tried this .emacs customization and it 
produces results very, very close to a normal Windows "maximization."

Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?

[Tim X]

Ronald <followait@163.com> writes:

> Leo wrote:
>> * [2006.12.10] Ronald wrote:
>>                ^^^^^^
>>> a built-in method is better 
>>
>> 'C-h n' and read the entry about full-screen. You might find something
>> useful.
>>
> There is nothing about this.

This functionality is part of emacs 22.

Tim

-- 
tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au

Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?

[Tim X]

Ronald <followait@163.com> writes:

> Leo wrote:
>> * [2006.12.11 06:56 +0800] Ronald wrote:
>>                            ^^^^^^
>>> I'm not using a XEmacs, and it doesn't support this parameter.
>>
>> Fullscreen is supported in GNU Emacs 22 and later.
>>
>
> Are you kidding?
> The lastest version by far is 21.x.

Emacs 22 is the CVS version. Its quite usable - I've been running it
exclusively for over 12 months now.

Tim

-- 
tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au

Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?

[Lennart Borgman]

Person wrote:
> Juanma Barranquero wrote:
>> On 12/11/06, Person <facetious_nickname@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a Windows-safe version of
>>> --fullscreen?
>>
>> I'd suggest adding
>>
>>   Emacs.Fullscreen: both
>>   Emacs.Geometry: 100x50   ; use suitable width x height for your 
>> display
>>
>> to the HKLM\GNU\Emacs registry key, and this to .emacs:
>>
>>   (add-hook 'window-setup-hook
>>             #'(lambda () (w32-send-sys-command ?\xF030)))
>
> Thank you (and Lennart): I tried this .emacs customization and it 
> produces results very, very close to a normal Windows "maximization."

There are two things missing AFAIK:

1) Not really full screen (no big matter)

2) You can move the maximized window (more irritating) -- but I just saw 
that this happens only on Windows 2000, not on XP.

Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?

[Lennart Borgman]

Person wrote:
> Juanma Barranquero wrote:
>> On 12/11/06, Person <facetious_nickname@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a Windows-safe version of
>>> --fullscreen?
>>
>> I'd suggest adding
>>
>>   Emacs.Fullscreen: both
>>   Emacs.Geometry: 100x50   ; use suitable width x height for your 
>> display
>>
>> to the HKLM\GNU\Emacs registry key, and this to .emacs:
>>
>>   (add-hook 'window-setup-hook
>>             #'(lambda () (w32-send-sys-command ?\xF030)))
>
> Thank you (and Lennart): I tried this .emacs customization and it 
> produces results very, very close to a normal Windows "maximization."

There are two things missing AFAIK:

1) Not really full screen (no big matter)

2) You can move the maximized window (more irritating) -- but I just saw 
that this happens only on Windows 2000, not on XP.

Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?

[Juanma Barranquero]

On 12/11/06, Person <facetious_nickname@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you (and Lennart): I tried this .emacs customization and it
> produces results very, very close to a normal Windows "maximization."

I recommend using also the registry entries I mentioned; they are
useful because with them Emacs already starts with a size approximate
to that of the final "maximized" state, so you reduce the flicker
effect of starting a small Emacs window which is immediately
maximized.

                    /L/e/k/t/u

Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?

[Juanma Barranquero]

On 12/11/06, Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se> wrote:

> 2) You can move the maximized window (more irritating) -- but I just saw
> that this happens only on Windows 2000, not on XP.

Inexact. In the XP Pro I use at work, I cannot move the "maximized"
window; in my laptop's XP Home, I can.

                    /L/e/k/t/u

Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?

[Juanma Barranquero]

On 12/12/06, Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> wrote:

> I recommend using also the registry entries I mentioned

BTW,

  Emacs.Fullscreen: both

should really be

  Emacs.Fullscreen: fullboth

                    /L/e/k/t/u