Should we remove pgg-pgp5.el?

Should we remove pgg-pgp5.el?

[Stefan Monnier]

AFAICT pgp5 is not Free Software.  Should we remove the pgg-pgp5.el file
that handles pgg's support for pgp5?


        Stefan

Re: Should we remove pgg-pgp5.el?

[Juanma Barranquero]

On 11/24/06, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>
> AFAICT pgp5 is not Free Software.  Should we remove the pgg-pgp5.el file
> that handles pgg's support for pgp5?

progmodes/sql.el supports Oracle, for example. For what I gather from
previous discussions, I think it is acceptable if we're not offering
better support for the non-free program than for the free
alternatives.

Just my opinion,
                    /L/e/k/t/u

Re: Should we remove pgg-pgp5.el?

[Stefan Monnier]

>> AFAICT pgp5 is not Free Software.  Should we remove the pgg-pgp5.el file
>> that handles pgg's support for pgp5?

> progmodes/sql.el supports Oracle, for example. For what I gather from
> previous discussions, I think it is acceptable if we're not offering
> better support for the non-free program than for the free
> alternatives.

IIUC another concern is that supporting this non-free should be more
favorable to Emacs than to this non-free software.

In this particular case I believe that pgp5 is sufficiently rare, poorly
supported, and advantageously replaced by gpg (whether you care about your
own freedom or not), that I don't think Emacs has much to benefit from
supporting it.


        Stefan

Re: Should we remove pgg-pgp5.el?

[Reiner Steib]

[ Cc-ing Daiki Ueno ]

On Sat, Nov 25 2006, Stefan Monnier wrote:

> In this particular case I believe that pgp5 is sufficiently rare, poorly
> supported, and advantageously replaced by gpg (whether you care about your
> own freedom or not), that I don't think Emacs has much to benefit from
> supporting it.

1. `pgg-pgp5.el' might be required for people to read old encrypted
   mails, or does gpg provided full compatibility?  Would people have
   to switch to other (non-Emacs-based) MUAs for decrypting such
   mails?

2. IIUC, PGG will be obsoleted by Daiki Ueno's new implementation
   EasyPG (for GnuPG 1.4.3 and up), so I don't think we should remove
   `pgg-pgp5.el' at this point (before the release).

Bye, Reiner.
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Re: Should we remove pgg-pgp5.el?

[Richard Stallman]

    progmodes/sql.el supports Oracle, for example. For what I gather from
    previous discussions, I think it is acceptable if we're not offering
    better support for the non-free program than for the free
    alternatives.

Making Emacs work with non-free software is ok, when the main effect
is to encourage users of that non-free software to adopt Emacs.  When
the main effect is to encourage Emacs users to adopt that non-free
software, we should not do it.  In borderline cases we can go ahead
and do it.