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From: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: Re: Strange change in bytecmop.el
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 12:09:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f7ccd24b05072603093e6529ab@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <85y87unegt.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>

On 7/26/05, David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> wrote:

> So, just _when_ would you use it?

Me? I wouldn't use it. I don't develop packages with XEmacs as the
primary target. I don't ever intend to.

> You just said above that making the distinction only makes sense for
> packages maintained externally.

And so, what? Obviously, if we added the feature 'emacs it *would not*
be for us to use, just to help outside developers. That's the exact
same reason why some functions we've added are XEmacs-compatible (I
just happen to hate the names `define-obsolete-function-alias' and
`define-obsolete-variable-alias', which I would make shorter in a
blink, but they were added as such because XEmacs already define them,
IIRC).

> I don't see that.  I am afraid of people putting (boundp 'emacs) into
> code also for things that Emacs happens to have _now_, even though
> XEmacs might gain them in a later synch, or just putting (boundp
> 'emacs) habitually in without thinking anything about it.

That's no different of using "(fboundp 'feature-such-and-such)" for
features Emacs already have. And, worrying about people using things
without thinking smells a bit of patronizing, to me. (No insult
intended, I can assure you.)

> I really think that this is one change that we are better off without.

I didn't propose it, so I'm hardly going to enter a fight for it. I
just happen to think is not only not as outrageous as you made it
sound (when you said "This is so backwards that I consider it
repulsive."), but I even think that could be useful.

-- 
                    /L/e/k/t/u

  reply	other threads:[~2005-07-26 10:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-07-21 21:49 Strange change in bytecmop.el Stefan Monnier
2005-07-21 23:12 ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-22 19:43   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-07-22 22:52 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-23 18:45   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-07-24 14:41     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-24 16:44       ` David Kastrup
2005-07-25  1:43         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-25  1:59           ` David Kastrup
2005-07-25 11:39             ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-07-25 12:51               ` David Kastrup
2005-07-25 16:03             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-07-25 17:21               ` David Kastrup
2005-07-26  8:12             ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-26  8:44               ` David Kastrup
2005-07-26 10:09                 ` Juanma Barranquero [this message]
2005-07-26 12:38                   ` David Kastrup
2005-07-26 12:58                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2005-07-28 22:04                 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-07-24 14:41     ` Richard M. Stallman

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