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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi@gmail.com>, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: "Clément Pit--Claudel" <clement.pit@gmail.com>,
	"Emacs developers" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 26b56dc: Fix some single quotes in documentation
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:10:05 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f7619eb5-bec9-409c-9f80-4befaf22811d@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFyQvY20qcB+uAA+wS0CFNzd1rzKBv3=y7CR7UsED-xSyqKxqg@mail.gmail.com>

>> Thanks, but personally, I'm quite satisfied with '' or `'.
>> Paul's recent crusade to put curly quotes everywhere (including Elisp 
>> docstring syntax) has turned me off them even in plain text files. And 
>> even if I didn't mind seeing them in plain text, I just don't see the 
>> point to expend the extra effort to use them
>
> I also do not understand this extra effort required in plain text
> files like NEWS.
> 
> It definitely going to happen that people will quote stuff as
> `something' (instead of using the curly quotes)

Indeed.  Why?  Because it is easier.  And sufficient.  `...' is
user-friendly to write, and sufficiently user-friendly to read.
So Occam prefers it (even though he no longer uses Emacs on Earth).

> and then we will have inconsistent quotes. Then we will need a
> script (like what Paul is doing) to convert those to curly quotes.
> 
> Instead, why not just stick to plain ` and ' in such files?
> 
> I have got to accept the curly quotes rendering in places like
> Info page rendering, stuff showed in echo area by messages and
> in the docstrings shown for vars and functions. There, the source
> code still uses ` and ' and there are *rendered* as curly quotes.
> 
> But in this recent commit, the curly quotes are being hard-coded.
> The only concern is that they are not faster/natural to type
> (inspite of having key-bindings to do so) compared to typing
> ` and '. And so we are bound to have mix of curly/grave/staight
> quotes in NEWS/etc. wherever we choose to hard-code the curly quotes. 

What Kaushal and Dmitry said.



  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-14 18:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <E1afUcV-0000iS-4N@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
2016-03-14 15:44   ` [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 26b56dc: Fix some single quotes in documentation John Wiegley
2016-03-14 16:31     ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-14 16:39       ` John Wiegley
2016-03-14 16:42         ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-14 17:19           ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-14 17:37             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-14 17:53               ` Kaushal Modi
2016-03-14 18:10                 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2016-03-14 18:32           ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-14 18:43             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-14 18:48               ` John Wiegley
2016-03-14 18:58                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-14 18:45             ` John Wiegley
2016-03-14 19:14               ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-14 19:29                 ` John Wiegley
2016-03-14 20:47                   ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-14 20:50                     ` John Wiegley
2016-03-15  0:30                       ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-15 22:21                         ` John Wiegley
2016-03-15 23:13                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-15 23:56                           ` Drew Adams
2016-03-16  0:11                           ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-16  0:52                             ` Drew Adams
2016-03-16  8:16                               ` John Wiegley
2016-03-16 17:55                               ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-16 21:26                                 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-16 23:37                                   ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-16 23:41                                     ` Drew Adams
2016-03-14 20:56                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-15  0:39                       ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-14 18:50             ` Kaushal Modi
2016-03-14 19:11             ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-14 19:16             ` Drew Adams
2016-03-14 19:39               ` John Wiegley
2016-03-14 19:47                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-14 17:03       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-14 18:24         ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-14 18:42           ` Eli Zaretskii

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