From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi@gmail.com>, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: "Clément Pit--Claudel" <clement.pit@gmail.com>,
"Emacs developers" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 26b56dc: Fix some single quotes in documentation
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:10:05 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f7619eb5-bec9-409c-9f80-4befaf22811d@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFyQvY20qcB+uAA+wS0CFNzd1rzKBv3=y7CR7UsED-xSyqKxqg@mail.gmail.com>
>> Thanks, but personally, I'm quite satisfied with '' or `'.
>> Paul's recent crusade to put curly quotes everywhere (including Elisp
>> docstring syntax) has turned me off them even in plain text files. And
>> even if I didn't mind seeing them in plain text, I just don't see the
>> point to expend the extra effort to use them
>
> I also do not understand this extra effort required in plain text
> files like NEWS.
>
> It definitely going to happen that people will quote stuff as
> `something' (instead of using the curly quotes)
Indeed. Why? Because it is easier. And sufficient. `...' is
user-friendly to write, and sufficiently user-friendly to read.
So Occam prefers it (even though he no longer uses Emacs on Earth).
> and then we will have inconsistent quotes. Then we will need a
> script (like what Paul is doing) to convert those to curly quotes.
>
> Instead, why not just stick to plain ` and ' in such files?
>
> I have got to accept the curly quotes rendering in places like
> Info page rendering, stuff showed in echo area by messages and
> in the docstrings shown for vars and functions. There, the source
> code still uses ` and ' and there are *rendered* as curly quotes.
>
> But in this recent commit, the curly quotes are being hard-coded.
> The only concern is that they are not faster/natural to type
> (inspite of having key-bindings to do so) compared to typing
> ` and '. And so we are bound to have mix of curly/grave/staight
> quotes in NEWS/etc. wherever we choose to hard-code the curly quotes.
What Kaushal and Dmitry said.
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2016-03-14 15:44 ` [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 26b56dc: Fix some single quotes in documentation John Wiegley
2016-03-14 16:31 ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-14 16:39 ` John Wiegley
2016-03-14 16:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-14 17:19 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-14 17:37 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-14 17:53 ` Kaushal Modi
2016-03-14 18:10 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2016-03-14 18:32 ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-14 18:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-14 18:48 ` John Wiegley
2016-03-14 18:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-14 18:45 ` John Wiegley
2016-03-14 19:14 ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-14 19:29 ` John Wiegley
2016-03-14 20:47 ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-14 20:50 ` John Wiegley
2016-03-15 0:30 ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-15 22:21 ` John Wiegley
2016-03-15 23:13 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-03-15 23:56 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-16 0:11 ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-16 0:52 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-16 8:16 ` John Wiegley
2016-03-16 17:55 ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-16 21:26 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-16 23:37 ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-16 23:41 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-14 20:56 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-03-15 0:39 ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-14 18:50 ` Kaushal Modi
2016-03-14 19:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-14 19:16 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-14 19:39 ` John Wiegley
2016-03-14 19:47 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-03-14 17:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-14 18:24 ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-14 18:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
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