From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19012: 25.0.50; `help-window-select' Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 13:04:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: References: <5460F5B3.6040402@gmx.at> <8e78202d-5ac0-4df5-8195-9849dd7509b7@default> <5461C901.6060707@gmx.at> <3f833473-f246-4d57-95cd-2ac654d326c9@default> <5462561B.2030306@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1415740666 25625 80.91.229.3 (11 Nov 2014 21:17:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:17:46 +0000 (UTC) To: martin rudalics , 19012@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 11 22:17:39 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XoIoj-0007dQ-Jb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 22:17:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50684 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoIoj-00019t-4z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:17:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58619) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoIoW-0000yo-Cp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:17:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoIoN-0005AJ-MX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:17:24 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:60476) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoIoN-00058v-Jh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:17:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XoIcY-0005qZ-8S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:05:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19012 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19012-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19012.141573989922462 (code B ref 19012); Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:05:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19012) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Nov 2014 21:04:59 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57683 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XoIcU-0005qE-Qa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:04:59 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:49179) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XoIcS-0005q6-QO for 19012@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 16:04:57 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id sABL4tdS007972 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:04:55 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id sABL4sM6018556 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:04:54 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0020.oracle.com (abhmp0020.oracle.com [141.146.116.26]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id sABL4s4Z018548; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:04:54 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:95879 > Well, there is also non-nil `pop-up-frames' etc. But I see that > from `emacs -Q', with only the above and non-nil `pop-up-frames', what > you say is true, so there must be something else involved as well. I > will take a look when I get some time. Found it, I guess. In addition to non-nil pop-up-frames and the other code sent previously, do this: (setq w32-grab-focus-on-raise nil) Then, as I described, when the *Help* frame already exists it is not selected by C-h v etc. Now IIUC, that variable, `w32-grab-focus-on-raise', should only stop Windows from having `raise-frame' always focus the frame. That really is (should be) something different from this (`help-window-select'). IOW, I do not want `raise-frame' to automatically focus the frame for input each time. But I might want `help-window-select' to select the *Help* frame. Make sense?