From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15917: 24.3.50; manual: mention keys reserved for users Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2020 14:24:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <<<87wqk6e5zm.fsf@web.de>>> <<>> <<<87v9euwzbe.fsf@gnus.org>>> <<<87blglmjlc.fsf@web.de>>> <<>> <<<54a1c039-6929-4e4d-ac9b-e7e5daf37c68@default>>> <<>> <<<62b06d46-5371-4df7-a3c5-b53f84e728ef@default>>> <<>> <<>> <<>> <<>> <<<897aec19-fa31-4ee8-80b4-8241ce3710c6@default>>> <<<837dr7a2kk.fsf@gnu.org>>> <<0b75f12c-9e1d-4f3f-b8c3-666ae3da6eb0@default>> <<83zh438lzp.fsf@gnu.org>> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11604"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 15917@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, stefan@marxist.se, psmith@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 30 22:25:11 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kYbtX-0002ul-BQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Fri, 30 Oct 2020 21:24:43 +0000 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 09ULKF8I129924; Fri, 30 Oct 2020 21:24:43 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 34cx62549n-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 30 Oct 2020 21:24:43 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0020.oracle.com (abhmp0020.oracle.com [141.146.116.26]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 09ULOdQX013128; Fri, 30 Oct 2020 21:24:41 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83zh438lzp.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.5056.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9790 signatures=668682 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 adultscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=977 suspectscore=0 bulkscore=0 malwarescore=0 spamscore=0 phishscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2010300159 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9790 signatures=668682 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 malwarescore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 bulkscore=0 priorityscore=1501 spamscore=0 phishscore=0 clxscore=1015 suspectscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2010300159 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:192208 Archived-At: > None of the above fits, because these are not coding conventions. Do you prefer "key-binding conventions"? (elisp) `Key Binding Conventions': Don't define 'C-c LETTER' as a key in Lisp programs. Sequences consisting of 'C-c' and a letter (either upper or lower case) are reserved for users; they are the *only* sequences reserved for users, so do not block them. Changing all the Emacs major modes to respect this convention was a lot of work; abandoning this convention would make that work go to waste, and inconvenience users. Please comply with it. > We have a good text proposed already, let's not waste any more time > trying to make it better. Clearly I've wasted my time, in response to (more than one) explicit request for suggested text. Why am I not surprised?