From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 24594@debbugs.gnu.org, clement.pit@gmail.com
Subject: bug#24594: 24.5; `variable-pitch-mode': accept FACE arg instead of hardcoding the face
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 07:51:29 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f41d2c82-3ca3-4753-a395-55f5773df896@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <<83d1jhplmf.fsf@gnu.org>>
> > > The variable-pitch face is a very general face: it stands for a face
> > > using any variable-pitch font, of which there are gazillions.
> >
> > A single face.
>
> Yes, a mode that was made for using a single face. There's nothing
> wrong about that.
Your statement was not about the mode, and neither was my reply to it.
It was about your claim that the face "stands for a face using any
variable-pitch font...".
How a face stands for a face, I don't know. But there is nothing
more general about this face than any other face. It, like others,
is entirely customizable.
Nor is it more restrictive than other faces. As I mentioned, you
can easily customize it to NOT be variable-pitch.
> > The face is hard-coded in the command. You cannot use the command
> > with a different face. Being able to customize a face is something
> > else altogether.
>
> Yes, I understood that the first time. Reiterating this doesn't help
> in any way.
You mentioned the ability to customize the face as somehow obviating
the command being restrictive (hardcoded to one particular face).
I replied that customizing the face is something else altogether -
irrelevant here.
> > And no, there is nothing special about face `variable-pitch'. In
> > particular, there is nothing that prevents you from customizing it
> > to a fixed-pitch face.
>
> Of course. But why would one want to do that? It's like customizing
> a color named "black" to have the same appearance as "white".
Who said that one should want to do that?
Naming a face after any of its default attributes (e.g. `red-foreground')
is misguided.
But that's not the point here. This was in reply to your statement that
face `variable-pitch' "stands for a face using any variable-pitch font."
It doesn't stand for any particular set of faces, at least not according
to the code. It is just a face like another - entirely customizable.
It might be interesting to have a face whose customization is limited
to variable-pitch fonts. But (so far anyway) `variable-pitch' is not
that face.
> Anyway, looks like one more of those arguments that go nowhere, so I'm
> out.
Likewise. You brought in extraneous stuff, to which I replied,
hoping it might help. I should know better by now, I guess.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-10-03 14:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-10-03 3:22 bug#24594: 24.5; `variable-pitch-mode': accept FACE arg instead of hardcoding the face Drew Adams
2016-10-03 3:39 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-03 3:48 ` Drew Adams
2016-10-03 7:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-05 0:16 ` npostavs
2016-10-05 3:28 ` Drew Adams
2016-10-05 12:29 ` npostavs
2016-10-05 15:14 ` Drew Adams
2016-10-05 15:32 ` Noam Postavsky
2016-10-05 15:51 ` Drew Adams
2016-10-05 21:43 ` Noam Postavsky
2016-10-06 16:24 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <<587cb6c7-44f8-4546-91ee-264416c965d6@default>
[not found] ` <<83oa31q5mr.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-10-03 13:36 ` Drew Adams
2016-10-03 14:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-07 20:15 ` Glenn Morris
[not found] ` <<<587cb6c7-44f8-4546-91ee-264416c965d6@default>
[not found] ` <<<83oa31q5mr.fsf@gnu.org>
[not found] ` <<3a104ad1-ccf9-4b54-9773-e939d74aaac1@default>
[not found] ` <<83d1jhplmf.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-10-03 14:51 ` Drew Adams [this message]
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