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From: Rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: acronymania (was: Re: Real-life examples of lexical binding in Emacs Lisp)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 10:53:20 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f3913008-dcb8-4eec-8dbd-4203d0ece8e6@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wpyzvbo3.fsf_-_@debian.uxu>

On Friday, June 19, 2015 at 11:04:53 PM UTC+5:30, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Udyant Wig  writes:
> 
> >> I use "LISP" in the context of the history and
> >> origin of the technology but I don't have a defined
> >> endpoint at what time history gives way to your
> >> everyday "Lisp".
> >
> > It seems to have been a byproduct of the general
> > attitude that also made "UNIX" "Unix", "COBOL"
> > "Cobol", "FORTH" "Forth", "EMACS" "Emacs", etc.
> 
> UNIX, despite being uppercased, isn't an acronym but
> a pun/poke on Multics - which by the was *is* an
> acronym:
> 
>     Multiplexed Information and Computing Service
> 
> Only "Multi" should be put within quotation marks as
> that part never worked out, which is where the
> fun begins.
> 
> With UNIX/Unix the distinction is clearer (?) than
> with LISP/Lisp as UNIX is the trademark that is
> awarded/sold to (at that point) official
> implementations - and Unix is everything else.
> 
> I consider GNU/Linux to be Unix tho some people insist
> it is UN*X, *nix, Unix-like, and so on. Hey, GNU is
> not Unix but that's exactly what it is. The "x" in
> Linux is a UNIX "x". The instigation to do Linux was
> in order to be able to use the university SunOS UNIX,
> only at home. It is Unix!
> 
> COBOL is an acronym: Common Business-Oriented Language
> and like EMACS (acronym/abbreviation of
> "Editor MACroS") they have turned into names by now -
> simple as that, I suppose.
> 
> FORTH isn't an acronym so one might as well make it
> a name with no regrets. All of those I would use as
> capitalized names, except for perhaps in some
> historical contexts - and to be sure, I never speak of
> Cobol and so Forth.

Curiously, I wrote a blog-post recently on a functional programming timeline
http://blog.languager.org/2015/04/cs-history-1.html
in which I mentioned tangentially about the culture of lowercase starting with Unix.

Someone felt strongly enough about the inaccuracies in this that he wrote me
some longer-than-my-post emails about this.
Since this has interesting historical titbits itself (and is too long for 
blogger's comments) its here:
http://blog.languager.org/2015/06/richard-okeefes-responses-to-fp-timeline.html


  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-19 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-29  8:28 Real-life examples of lexical binding in Emacs Lisp Marcin Borkowski
2015-05-30  8:28 ` Tassilo Horn
2015-06-14 10:52   ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]   ` <mailman.4976.1434279182.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-14 11:31     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-16 23:48       ` Jim Diamond
2015-06-17  0:06         ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-17  6:23           ` Andreas Röhler
     [not found]           ` <mailman.5136.1434522217.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-17 10:49             ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-17 10:53               ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-17 14:42                 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-06-17 16:19                   ` Andreas Röhler
2015-06-17 19:30                     ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.5171.1434557990.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-17 17:12                     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-06-17 20:22                   ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-17 22:13                     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-17 23:46                       ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-18 14:57                     ` Udyant Wig
2015-06-18 15:47                       ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-19 13:49                         ` Udyant Wig
2015-06-19 17:41                           ` acronymania (was: Re: Real-life examples of lexical binding in Emacs Lisp) Emanuel Berg
2015-06-19 17:53                             ` Rusi [this message]
2015-06-17 20:33             ` Real-life examples of lexical binding in Emacs Lisp Emanuel Berg
2015-06-17 22:07               ` Robert Thorpe
2015-06-17 22:17                 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-17  0:43         ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-17 16:02         ` Phillip Lord
     [not found]         ` <mailman.5167.1434556959.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-23 23:49           ` Jim Diamond
     [not found] ` <mailman.3950.1432974543.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-05-30 12:59   ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-14 10:55     ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]     ` <mailman.4977.1434279342.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-06-14 20:04       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-06-14 21:44         ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-06-14 21:49           ` Pascal J. Bourguignon

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