From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=E1roly_Lo=22rentey?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: multi-tty branch created Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 20:02:16 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87sla0rgs4.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <85abw8pyk7.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85646wpuqn.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <464C7D1F.7000201@lorentey.hu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0634645469==" X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1179511383 31621 80.91.229.12 (18 May 2007 18:03:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 18:03:03 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 18 20:03:02 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hp6n3-0001z0-Qu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 20:02:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hp6n3-0000Xt-Es for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 14:02:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hp6n0-0000Xj-Qh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 14:02:54 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hp6mz-0000XV-Ak for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 14:02:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hp6mz-0000XS-81 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 14:02:53 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hp6my-0007J0-IE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 14:02:52 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Hp6mn-0005H4-AH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 20:02:41 +0200 Original-Received: from oktnb25.inf.elte.hu ([157.181.167.25]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 20:02:41 +0200 Original-Received: from karoly by oktnb25.inf.elte.hu with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 20:02:41 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 59 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: oktnb25.inf.elte.hu User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:71334 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --===============0634645469== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig19ED87E7EB62A749C229AF5B" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig19ED87E7EB62A749C229AF5B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan Monnier wrote: >> $ emacsclient >> =3D=3D> X frame >=20 > There are *many* different ways to create new frames (one per "session"= , > one per file, reuse old ones or not, ...). I hope you got it right ;-)= I hope so as well, but there is always room for tweaking the defaults if I happened to choose something wrong. I find that the current default settings fit me like a glove, but that's no big wonder. :-) I'm very interested in what others think about the behaviour of emacsclient, and if there is anything that doesn't work for them as well as it could. > Maybe it's OK. Note that when I added the --display argument, I was > careful to not automatically use the $DISPLAY envvar, in order to prese= rve > backward compatibility, so users have to say --display "$DISPLAY" if th= ey > want it. Emacsclient can now consistently open a frame even if X is not available, so I would argue existing users will find the new default easier to use as well. If they do object, but only then, should we consider reverting the default to the old behaviour. I personally find the new emacsclient is really rather more pleasant to use than the old one. I wouldn't like to hide the new feature set because we're afraid somebody somewhere might find it offensive, but if people did object, then I'd easily accept such a decision. --=20 Karoly --------------enig19ED87E7EB62A749C229AF5B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGTeos6eoyqA+yej8RAlzfAJ4h1uipkQ3zH0lePmo0iYi6tT2BHQCeLgx9 1xiCjEsoH/+hAyvEHsogt4k= =j/kR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig19ED87E7EB62A749C229AF5B-- --===============0634645469== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel --===============0634645469==--