From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=E1roly_Lo=22rentey?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: multi-tty branch created Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 15:24:45 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87sla0rgs4.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <85abw8pyk7.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85646wpuqn.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0849968235==" X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1179321960 13999 80.91.229.12 (16 May 2007 13:26:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 13:26:00 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 16 15:26:00 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HoJVv-0003pM-BS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 May 2007 15:25:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HoJdt-0004VB-Sk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 May 2007 09:34:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HoJdp-0004Ux-Nz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 May 2007 09:34:09 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HoJdo-0004Uk-1J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 May 2007 09:34:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HoJdn-0004Uh-QB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 May 2007 09:34:07 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HoJVn-0005ry-E2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 May 2007 09:25:51 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HoJUx-0000Bk-AF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 May 2007 15:24:59 +0200 Original-Received: from ns.netvisor.hu ([195.228.79.242]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 15:24:59 +0200 Original-Received: from karoly by ns.netvisor.hu with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 16 May 2007 15:24:59 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 84 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ns.netvisor.hu User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) In-Reply-To: <85646wpuqn.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:71163 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --===============0849968235== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig81D535715AB784DF3AD72926" This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig81D535715AB784DF3AD72926 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David Kastrup wrote: > I've checked it out, compiled it, not yet used it. README.multi-tty > does not yet reflect the availability on Savannah. I updated it a little. > Is the GTK+ situation as described in there? No, it has much improved. AFAIK GTK still doesn't fully support multiple displays, but the remaining bugs are mostly memory leaks, not crashes. > One thing that is mentioned that calling emacsclient from a different > user will not work. I think that this is really a non-issue since > file accessibility from a different user would also be different and > there is no really useful strategy short of using tramp for getting > this to work. I agree with your reasoning but the item is about something slightly different: Login: fred Password: fred$ emacs M-x server-start Meanwhile, in another session: Login: barney Password: barney$ su fred Password: fred$ emacsclient -t (Fails due to Emacs not being able to open the tty device.) The use case: fred sits down before barney's console to show him something under his own account. > emacsclient operation in multitty is different as compared to > previously. So people can't avoid multitty completely, meaning that > we can't bluntly state "situation can't be worse than previously, no > regression" but need to evaluate multitty somewhat more closely before > finding it suited for trunk, even if the compilation problems on > DOS/Windows/Mac have been tackled. Hold your horses. There is always "emacsclient --current-frame" to prevent emacsclient from creating a new terminal. This retains much of the functionality of the original emacsclient, including, I believe, things like C-#, and does not use multi-tty features. I hope most people would agree that the new emacsclient features are a definite improvement. > The precondition for trunk in my opinion would be that it does not > impede workability for those people who are working on different parts > of Emacs. Keep in mind that improving emacsclient behaviour is one of the primary results of the multi-tty branch. --=20 Karoly --------------enig81D535715AB784DF3AD72926 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGSwYg6eoyqA+yej8RAmuxAJ9q4msoRaUq8uAltRdWcdbstrjTjwCeNgnP T8UbXvQjZo8NXi/e4Gd87ow= =hs/z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig81D535715AB784DF3AD72926-- --===============0849968235== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel --===============0849968235==--