From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rustom Mody Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: beginner questions Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 10:27:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1380648614 18941 80.91.229.3 (1 Oct 2013 17:30:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 17:30:14 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 01 19:30:18 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VR3m6-0006kD-1C for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 19:30:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60347 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VR3m5-00081h-KU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 13:30:17 -0400 X-Received: by 10.224.2.68 with SMTP id 4mr35010781qai.1.1380648456591; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 10:27:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.66.101 with SMTP id e5mr715965igt.12.1380648456294; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 10:27:36 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.glorb.com!q9no741058qas.0!news-out.google.com!9ni1076qaf.0!nntp.google.com!q9no741046qas.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=59.95.21.98; posting-account=mBpa7woAAAAGLEWUUKpmbxm-Quu5D8ui Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 59.95.21.98 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 17:27:36 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:201506 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:93775 Archived-At: On Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:48:20 PM UTC+5:30, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Emacs generally tries to make it so that what you see is all there is > to see. So while it may perform extra edits for you, it should always > be immediately visible on screen. IOW as long as you look at your > screen, you should immediately see when something's going on. Just had an hour-long battle with an exception to that rule! I yanked from google/firefox and pasted a link into org-mode/emacs. When exported to html that link was having some junk character(s) that was giving a broken link on being clicked. Naturally my mind was going along the lines "bug in org exporter..." Cut down the org file to a single header and the link. No luck Switched from org to fundamental mode -- same -- no character in the link in emacs but some junk on html-export. Finally switched to vi. It showed me: [[http://cs.brown.edu/people/pw/papers/monist.ps<200e>][Philosophical diffs between OOp and FP]] 200e??? What the hell... Asked emacs to describe-char (the nothing at that point!) and that is something called 'left-to-right-mark' So humble request: Please show what is there! Emacs version 23.4.1