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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
Cc: 41250@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net
Subject: bug#41250: 28.0.50; Dired displays unconditionally ls-switches on modeline
Date: Sat, 16 May 2020 23:59:11 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f255d1cd-18df-467e-94f6-a0ebcf2fa27c@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR06MB4526067C38773DE703B2332F96BB0@VI1PR06MB4526.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

> > This mode-line indication is not, primarily, about
> > showing you the current `ls' switches.  It's about
> > telling you whether files are sorted by name or time.
>
> Yeah, I completely understand, but as I wrote to Eli too, to me, dired
> buffer itself is an immidate visual feedback. I don't need addtional
> information on modeline to tell me if files are sorted alfabetically or
> by some other mean.

Some of us do need/want that aid.  And no,
it's not always obvious what the current order
is.

> So I prefer to save mode-line space for something
> else. It is just my personal preference, I have
> understanding that other people might have different taste.

Indeed; likewise.  And I'm in favor of making
it easy for different people to get different
behavior in this regard.

In general, user customization of the mode-line
is not simple.  When a mode like Dired can offer
useful info in the mode-line, in a few chars, it
should.  And when it can offer users easy ways
to change what's shown there and how, it should.

That doesn't mean that providing a few simple
choices and simple ways to choose will satisfy all
user desires in this department.  Fortunately ;-).





  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-17  6:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-14  1:42 bug#41250: 28.0.50; Dired displays unconditionally ls-switches on modeline Arthur Miller
2020-05-14 22:33 ` Juri Linkov
2020-05-14 23:42   ` Drew Adams
2020-05-15  8:44     ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-15 18:55       ` Drew Adams
2020-05-15 19:09         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-15 21:08           ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-15 22:19             ` Drew Adams
2020-05-17  3:09               ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-17  6:59                 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2020-05-17 11:12                   ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-16  6:34             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-16 12:18               ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-17  3:01               ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-17 15:17                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-17 16:34                   ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-17 16:42                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-17 22:57                       ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-17 23:37                         ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-18 15:08                           ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-18 14:25                         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]           ` <<VI1PR06MB4526BAF92DBDCEA6A75D7A0196BD0@VI1PR06MB4526.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
     [not found]             ` <<835zcwv15e.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-05-16 14:42               ` Drew Adams
2020-05-15 19:54         ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-15 22:19           ` Drew Adams
2020-05-15 22:24             ` Drew Adams
2020-09-30 16:02               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-30 19:04                 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-30 19:30                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-30 19:58                     ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-30 19:59                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-01 19:37                         ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-01 19:59                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-02  6:31                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-02 14:10                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-02 14:57                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-03 17:36                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-02  6:54                             ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-02 14:14                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-02 14:59                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-03 17:38                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-04 19:44                                 ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-05  7:08                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-05 20:15                                     ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-06  1:37                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-05 15:49                                   ` Glenn Morris
2020-10-05 20:12                                     ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-05 21:31                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-06 13:08                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-10-06 13:28                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-05 23:06                                       ` Glenn Morris
2020-10-06  7:13                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-06  7:18                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-06  7:28                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-06  7:48                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-06  8:18                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-06  8:44                                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-06  9:03                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-06  9:17                                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-06  9:24                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-06  9:45                                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-06  7:52                                             ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-01 20:01                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-01  2:30                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-01  2:39                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-01  9:24                         ` Andy Moreton
2020-09-30 21:07                   ` Drew Adams
2020-10-01  1:25                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-01 16:35                       ` Drew Adams
2020-09-30 20:56                 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-16 23:11         ` Juri Linkov
2020-05-17  1:16           ` Drew Adams
2020-05-15  6:43   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-15  8:40     ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-15 10:15       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-15 10:50         ` Arthur Miller
2020-10-06 11:36 ` Mattias Engdegård
     [not found] <<VI1PR06MB45265DF0191578C413A3B37C96BC0@VI1PR06MB4526.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
     [not found] ` <<87v9ky9p6o.fsf@mail.linkov.net>
     [not found]   ` <<654acc31-015d-4552-bd9b-3b8c69661fcd@default>
     [not found]     ` <<VI1PR06MB45265603DFF6BE71DBD819EB96BD0@VI1PR06MB4526.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
     [not found]       ` <<0957af50-7f85-455a-9d2c-e96451727872@default>
     [not found]         ` <<83a729uiaq.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-05-15 21:00           ` Drew Adams
2020-05-15 21:14             ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-15 22:04             ` Drew Adams

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