From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Maciej Katafiasz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs and C++ codesense Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 15:57:54 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1177512998.732034.286160@s33g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <877irueq2c.fsf@gmail.com> <87vefaw78q.fsf@gmail.com> <87r6pwlq9h.fsf@gmail.com> <87odl0sjqc.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178294493 28831 80.91.229.12 (4 May 2007 16:01:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 16:01:33 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 04 18:01:32 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hk0Dm-0008WH-RL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 18:01:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk0KQ-0008NB-QB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 12:08:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk0Hv-0005z4-NB for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 12:05:43 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk0Ht-0005xL-HR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 12:05:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk0Hs-0005x8-T3 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 12:05:41 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hk0BD-0004h1-RN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 11:58:48 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Hk0Ai-0000qs-8g for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2007 17:58:16 +0200 Original-Received: from users.kollegienet.dk ([130.226.173.22]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 04 May 2007 17:58:16 +0200 Original-Received: from mathrick by users.kollegienet.dk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 04 May 2007 17:58:16 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 45 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: users.kollegienet.dk User-Agent: pan 0.120 (Plate of Shrimp) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43669 Archived-At: Den Fri, 04 May 2007 17:15:39 +0200 skrev Hadron: >> CEDET, as the name suggests, is a collection of various tools, connected >> mostly by the fact they're developed together, and some depend on the >> others. Semantic is the most prominent part of CEDET, which gives the >> access to a complete language parser infrastructure, and subsequently to >> its output, allowing for construction of language-sensitive tools (for >> example, ones that know what variables are visible at any given point in >> the source) without tying them to any particular language. > > Yes - I read that. I just don't see how its useful in C development. I'm > not saying it is not useful. Just that I don't see what its for. Mea > culpa. The code navigation doesn't seem to do much and the decoration > modes are not particularly helpful. I guess it could do with some sort > of tutorial as I played with it a while and didn't really see what > benefits it gave. Maybe you could describe how you use it? http://mathrick.org/files/emacs-demo.gif Notice how it very clearly has an idea what's going on in the C code and reacts to that. >> >> ECB is a collection of tools supposed to give better code browsing (hence >> the name) tools, as opposed to the ones aimed at writing code. > > Yes, I used it for a while but found the locals/files stuff to be of > limited use. Locals are really useful for getting an overview what's there in the file, and for jumps. Files stuff I don't use too much indeed. >> Winring is not tied or related at all to either of the two, just that >> ECB has explicit support for it because it does some heavy >> windows-management magic. > > I realise that, but its kind of a must have when switching between > things like ecb and gnus IMO. Not using Gnus, and even if, I use separate frames for clearly separate layouts. So far I didn't feel the need to optimise layout management enough to take the time to evaluate and choose one of the window managers. Cheers, Maciej