From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Daniel Colascione Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Windows emacs-25.1 i686 vs x86_64? 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X-Received-From: 2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:adf3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209249 Archived-At: On 11/07/2016 06:43 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > In GNU projects, we typically stop worrying about an underlying > > platform when its original supplier stops supporting it. For > > example, Emacs no longer worries about IRIX because SGI stopped > > supporting IRIX in 2013. > > In the GNU Project, the question that matters, for a system version of > no particular importance to us (such as any version of Windows), is > whether users care about that version enough to maintain support for > it. If they do that, we may as well not delete their code > unless it is getting in the way rather badly. > > If we have no direct evidence about whether users care about a certain > version, by default we can suppose that they won't care about a > version that is no longer being maintained. But that's not the > criterion, just a default way to guess. > > Given that Windows is so widely used, and that so many users stick to > old versions of it, it is plausible to me that millions of people > still use Windows 98. Maybe tens or hundreds of millions. > > That number may still be growing. ISTR that even a few years ago > people were still installing unauthorized copies of Windows 98 on PCs, > because Microsoft made it harder to install subsequent Windows > versions. It would not surprise me if Windows 98 was installed on > millions of new PCs this year. > What data would, in principle, convince you otherwise?