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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::42d X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120518 Archived-At: On 18.05.2019 20:17, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> So my vote is to simply work toward better UI, one step at a time. > > Is that different from what we do now? If so, in what way? In that somebody mentioned a specific issue, and we're not fixing it yet. Instead we're talking about global problems. > If filing a bug will make a difference, yes. Of course, we can fix > problems even without a filed bug, it isn't unheard of. OK, what should I do? You're the boss. I can probably easily fix it with a commit and push. Should I?