Re: how to change file coding system

[Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE>]

Am 17.08.2005 um 11:20 schrieb Martin Monsorno:

> 7) file bla*
>  bla.changed-by-eclipse: UTF-8 Unicode text
>  bla.created-by-eclipse: UTF-8 Unicode text
>  bla.created-by-emacs:   ISO-8859 text
> 8) Visiting bla.changed-by-eclipse with emacs shows "�berfall"
> 9) Visiting bla.chreated-by-eclipse with emacs shows "überfall"
>
> So we now have 3 files containing the "same" string, 2 of them claim
> to be utf-8, but they use a different encoding (2 or 3 bytes).  For
> all 3 files, when opening the in emacs, buffer-file-coding-system's
> value is raw-text-unix.

I wouldn't say the files claim to be something -- it's the `file´ 
programme that says so, according to some rules in `magic´ files. UTF-8 
contents usually cannot be distinguished from other contents -- a byte 
is a byte is a byte. Some UTF-8 files contain a marker by which one can 
determine, that it's UTF-8. Other markers state that the text is 
written right to left with a citation left to right. Could be Eclipse 
writes such a marker ...

>
>> The C-x RET commands *do not* change a buffer's (or a file's) 
>> contents,
>> they just put some new skin on the buffer so that your view on the
>> buffer's (i.e. file's) contents is adapted in a certain way: you can
>> see a buffer's (or file's) whatever contents in green, blue, red,
>> yellow, cyan ... utf-8, Mac-Roman, NeXT, koi-r8, euc-jp-unix ...
>> encoding/view.
>
> I think I understood this.  But this means that I can change the
> file-encoding of a file with emacs, doesn't it?

Yes. I Usually revert buffer from file with new encoding, C-x RET r 
<encoding> RET and save the file in that encoding. I'd say it works 
reliably!

>
> What I cite in my mails are the strings as emacs shows them to me when
> loading one of the files.  So the question is, /why/ are they not
> UTF-8?  Does eclipse do a wrong latin-1 to utf-8 conversion?
>

I don't know and use Eclipse. Test is with its own documentation -- and 
some reliably encoded files!

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   Pete

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