From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Finding packages to enable by default Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 22:05:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: References: <87mwkgb74k.fsf@yandex.ru> <52A02473.8090005@gmx.at> <87d2laq3e5.fsf@yandex.ru> <27cf3be2-5371-4c6c-8e93-5942f8369589@default> <87mwkey18f.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1386309933 18518 80.91.229.3 (6 Dec 2013 06:05:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 06:05:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Andrew Hyatt , Tom , emacs-devel , martin rudalics , Stefan Monnier , Bozhidar Batsov , Dmitry Gutov To: Jambunathan K Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 06 07:05:37 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VooXh-00030T-0L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 07:05:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57476 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VooXg-0007nM-IK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 01:05:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37554) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VooXU-0007nC-Ca for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 01:05:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VooXL-0006zX-Mt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 01:05:24 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:47532) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VooXL-0006zS-GO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 01:05:15 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id rB6656hw015458 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 6 Dec 2013 06:05:07 GMT Original-Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rB66554I001713 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 6 Dec 2013 06:05:05 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0014.oracle.com (abhmp0014.oracle.com [141.146.116.20]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rB6654US002375; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 06:05:04 GMT In-Reply-To: <87mwkey18f.fsf@gmail.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.81 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:166152 Archived-At: > `show-paren-mode' is topping the list. Good. > That it's behaviour "suffices" is what matters. Whether there is > an alternate behaviour that is "superior" shouldn't matter much. Check whether you don't have both turned on. `blink-matching-paren' is ON by default. If you then turn on `show-paren-mode' then you are seeing the same behavior I suggested. If you want to see `s-p-m' without `b-m-p', then turn off `b-m-p'. > > 2. Others have countered that an advantage of `blink-matching-paren' > > over `show-paren-mode' is that tells you where the other end is, > > when it is off-window. I agree: `blink-matching-paren' should > > remain on (non-nil) by default. >=20 > > 3. No one (maybe you?) has spoken in favor of the jump-and-blink > > behavior of `blink-matching-paren'. Some have called it annoying. > > But turning on `show-paren-mode' nullifies this behavior, AFAICT. >=20 > It is easy to tell when the other end is out of view. In that case, I > can scroll so that both ends are within the screen. > Otherwise, I just use C-M-n and C-M-p. Did you try the different possibilities? (2 values each * 2 "modes") You are clearly missing the point, here. What `blink-matching-paren' does is not just tell you THAT the other end is out of view. It shows you the code that your right paren matches. I suspect that you are seeing that message anyway (since `b-m-p' is on by default). Try turning off `b-m-p' and you will see no such indication of what matches. Not as helpful. > I don't need blinking. It works for me. Please reread what I wrote. I don't need blinking either. And with what I suggested there is no blinking.