* bug#31203: 26.1; Fringe and toolbar bitmaps unscaled on Windows 10 HiDPI display
@ 2018-04-18 1:07 Keith Russell
2018-04-18 6:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-11 15:55 ` bug#31203: Carlos Pita
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Keith Russell @ 2018-04-18 1:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 31203
Running on Windows 10 with a high resolution display (3840 x 2160)
the fringe bitmaps and toolbar buttons are so tiny as to be almost
indistinguishable from dots. Scrollbars and menus are fine and the
fonts look stunning. If I set the compatibility option to "override
application" and let the system scale then it's the right size but
fuzzy. I couldn't find anything in the bug reports. The only
thing I found in the Changelog was the change to make Emacs
DPI aware on Windows but that was back in 2015.
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* bug#31203: 26.1; Fringe and toolbar bitmaps unscaled on Windows 10 HiDPI display
2018-04-18 1:07 bug#31203: 26.1; Fringe and toolbar bitmaps unscaled on Windows 10 HiDPI display Keith Russell
@ 2018-04-18 6:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-18 23:55 ` Keith Russell
2019-09-11 15:55 ` bug#31203: Carlos Pita
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2018-04-18 6:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Keith Russell; +Cc: 31203
> From: Keith Russell <keithrussell42@fastmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 21:07:34 -0400
>
>
> Running on Windows 10 with a high resolution display (3840 x 2160)
> the fringe bitmaps and toolbar buttons are so tiny as to be almost
> indistinguishable from dots. Scrollbars and menus are fine and the
> fonts look stunning. If I set the compatibility option to "override
> application" and let the system scale then it's the right size but
> fuzzy. I couldn't find anything in the bug reports. The only
> thing I found in the Changelog was the change to make Emacs
> DPI aware on Windows but that was back in 2015.
The fringe bitmaps have fixed width specified in pixels. I understand
you are saying that the number of pixels is correct, but its visual
appearance leaves a lot to be desired, is that right? If so, you can
customize your fringes using this:
(setq fringe-mode '(16 . 16))
(replace 16 with a number that is to your liking, I'm just guessing
there).
We could also apply the scaling automatically, patches welcome.
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* bug#31203: 26.1; Fringe and toolbar bitmaps unscaled on Windows 10 HiDPI display
2018-04-18 6:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2018-04-18 23:55 ` Keith Russell
2018-04-19 6:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Keith Russell @ 2018-04-18 23:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 31203
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Hi Eli,
Unfortunately that only changes the width of the fringe. I had tried it
before but tried again just to make sure. The bitmap doesn't scale with
the fringe width. See the attached screen shot. This is with a fringe of
32 and a font of "10" which translates to 33 pixels on my display. I'm
not a Windows programmer (more Linux than anything) so I'm not sure if I
can provide a patch. I will poke around the source and see what I can
see. Maybe something obvious will pop out.
Thanks,
Keith
On 2018-04-18 2:54, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Keith Russell <keithrussell42@fastmail.com>
>> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 21:07:34 -0400
>>
>>
>> Running on Windows 10 with a high resolution display (3840 x 2160)
>> the fringe bitmaps and toolbar buttons are so tiny as to be almost
>> indistinguishable from dots. Scrollbars and menus are fine and the
>> fonts look stunning. If I set the compatibility option to "override
>> application" and let the system scale then it's the right size but
>> fuzzy. I couldn't find anything in the bug reports. The only
>> thing I found in the Changelog was the change to make Emacs
>> DPI aware on Windows but that was back in 2015.
> The fringe bitmaps have fixed width specified in pixels. I understand
> you are saying that the number of pixels is correct, but its visual
> appearance leaves a lot to be desired, is that right? If so, you can
> customize your fringes using this:
>
> (setq fringe-mode '(16 . 16))
>
> (replace 16 with a number that is to your liking, I'm just guessing
> there).
>
> We could also apply the scaling automatically, patches welcome.
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* bug#31203: 26.1; Fringe and toolbar bitmaps unscaled on Windows 10 HiDPI display
2018-04-18 23:55 ` Keith Russell
@ 2018-04-19 6:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2018-04-19 6:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Keith Russell; +Cc: 31203
> Cc: 31203@debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Keith Russell <keithrussell42@fastmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 19:55:33 -0400
>
> Unfortunately that only changes the width of the fringe. I had tried it
> before but tried again just to make sure. The bitmap doesn't scale with
> the fringe width. See the attached screen shot. This is with a fringe of
> 32 and a font of "10" which translates to 33 pixels on my display. I'm
> not a Windows programmer (more Linux than anything) so I'm not sure if I
> can provide a patch. I will poke around the source and see what I can
> see. Maybe something obvious will pop out.
Thanks. I wonder why this problem was not reported on X. Maybe the
relevant X APIs scale the bitmaps under the hood?
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* bug#31203:
2018-04-18 1:07 bug#31203: 26.1; Fringe and toolbar bitmaps unscaled on Windows 10 HiDPI display Keith Russell
2018-04-18 6:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2019-09-11 15:55 ` Carlos Pita
2019-09-11 15:57 ` bug#31203: Carlos Pita
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Carlos Pita @ 2019-09-11 15:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 31203
Hi Eli, not sure about the fringe pixmaps, but I can confirm that many
things are scaled too tiny in X11 with a hidpi screen, for example
checkboxes and "subtree arrows" in customization buffers. Also tetris
looks absurdly tiny. In general, I would say that widgets and images
are not correctly scaled according to the screen dpi. It also
surprises me that there are so few google/debbugs matches when
searching for hidpi related problems. Everyone is moving to 2K and 3K
screens now, you can't buy new decent lowdpi hardware even if you
wanted to.
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