From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yavor Doganov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 15 seconds to fontify index Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 10:41:43 +0000 (UTC) Organization: The GNU Emacs Church (Bulgarian eparchy) Message-ID: References: <17936.10981.858134.769803@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <87bqi7e6uh.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <86tzvz9crd.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1175596938 30659 80.91.229.12 (3 Apr 2007 10:42:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 10:42:18 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 03 12:42:14 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HYgSr-0007d4-3Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 12:42:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HYgVy-0005g8-FR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 06:45:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HYgVv-0005g3-5G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 06:45:23 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HYgVs-0005fr-Oz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 06:45:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HYgVs-0005fo-I3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 06:45:20 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HYgSj-00089B-Mg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 06:42:05 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HYgSb-00064j-PO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 12:41:57 +0200 Original-Received: from 213.91.219.2 ([213.91.219.2]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 12:41:57 +0200 Original-Received: from yavor by 213.91.219.2 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 12:41:57 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 26 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.91.219.2 X-Operating-System: GNU/Linux User-Agent: pan 0.119 (Karma Hunters) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:68989 Archived-At: В Mon, 02 Apr 2007 16:00:12 +0300, Eli Zaretskii написа: > Compare that with the CPU speed increase during those 5 years. And compare that to the fact that few users are not affected by the CPU speed increase, because they seldom upgrade their hardware. For example, my main (and most powerful) desktop machine is basically the same in the past ~10 years. Upgraded the CPU from 100 MHz to 233 MHz, added some more RAM, and that's it. I'm not saying that in general developers should always do their best to satisfy users like me (I realize we're a minority), but it is a bit frustrating to see how newer versions of some packages don't run, or run in a nearly unacceptable way. $ time emacs -Q -nw --eval '(info "(elisp)Index")' -kill real 0m55.110s user 0m50.715s sys 0m0.512s $ egrep -i "name|mhz" /proc/cpuinfo model name : Pentium MMX cpu MHz : 233.870 GNU Emacs 22.0.95.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2007-03-02 on pacem, modified by Debian