From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bug spam Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:14:00 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87iqb5o7ie.fsf@red-bean.com> <878wc1h524.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <874omph4f0.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87pr5dmqfw.fsf@red-bean.com> <877hrl1m5m.fsf@telefonica.net> <86hbqpctyh.fsf_-_@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1263491368 20583 80.91.229.12 (14 Jan 2010 17:49:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:49:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D3scar?= Fuentes , Karl Fogel , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 14 18:49:20 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NVTot-0003NA-Ur for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:49:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56216 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NVTou-00026l-Ej for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:49:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NVTTt-00041G-UH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:27:37 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NVTTp-0003uN-AW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:27:37 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55215 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NVTTo-0003u4-TE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:27:32 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:49592) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NVTTo-0005NK-Gx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:27:32 -0500 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NVTGi-0000xR-4a; Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:14:00 -0500 X-Spook: BCCI Area 51 undercover CDC South Africa CISU kibo colonel X-Ran: 'pezI$`8Td@F?g8I[dHH}F%J|%ywgm]=RZbmOBp-z-\/eD5\ca;*c?8D])V^5`d0UpC\F[ X-Hue: red X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:23:04 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:120014 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier wrote: > That sounds backward: it would make a lot more sense (efficiencywise and > codingwise) to pass the emails through spamassassin before handing them > over to Mailman. Yes, it would. But the point of the listhelper system is for places where you can't do that: http://www.nongnu.org/listhelper/ from README: The best place to put anti-spam controls is at the earliest point where spam can enter the system. Unfortunately I couldn't affect changes to the upstream mail filtering. > The current debbugs moderation is pretty taxing in human time, because > of the enormous amount of spam that it gets. I don't think it's unmanageable.