From: Bozhidar Batsov <bozhidar.batsov@gmail.com>
To: Leo Liu <sdl.web@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sequence manipulation functions
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 14:52:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <etPan.54689e1d.7724c67e.3b5@Bozhidars-MacBook-Pro-3.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y4re746j.fsf@gmail.com>
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There are relatively few sequence functions from CL in the standard library. The majority of them
reside in `cl-lib`, which IMO can’t be counted as part of the standard library. After all its own description
is:
;; These are extensions to Emacs Lisp that provide a degree of
;; Common Lisp compatibility, beyond what is already built-in
;; in Emacs Lisp.
While I’d prefer it we adopted the names from Scheme and Clojure (e.g. filter vs remove-if-not), I’m fine with leaning more in the CL
direction as long as this is done by promoting some cl-lib functions to the standard Emacs library. People shouldn’t have to require the entire `cl-lib` just for the same of a handful of sequence functions.
I don’t think it’s normal that pretty much every Emacs package depends on their `cl-lib` or the third party lib `dash.el`.
Emacs hackers obviously feel that the standard library is lacking and it should be improved somehow (preferably now instead
of next decade).
—
Cheers,
Bozhidar
On November 14, 2014 at 7:16:49 AM, Leo Liu (sdl.web@gmail.com) wrote:
On 2014-11-13 13:21 +0800, Drew Adams wrote:
> It should be based on the existing sequence functions in Common Lisp,
> as stated earlier. Such things were worked out for Lisp eons ago.
> There is really no reason to do something very different, other
> things being equal.
I think most people will like this option. So I was hypothesising what
was being done i.e. `If we were to model another set of list/seq
routines after other......' since we already have one after CL.
Leo
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Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-04 22:17 sequence manipulation functions Nicolas Petton
2014-11-05 1:21 ` Glenn Morris
2014-11-05 9:46 ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-05 4:58 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-05 9:45 ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-06 0:54 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-11-05 9:23 ` Damien Cassou
2014-11-05 18:12 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-05 21:59 ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-05 22:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-06 0:30 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-05 15:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-05 15:36 ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-05 15:52 ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-11-05 18:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07 17:35 ` [PATCH] " Nicolas Petton
2014-11-07 17:43 ` Daniel Colascione
2014-11-10 17:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-10 22:28 ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-10 23:12 ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-11 2:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-12 17:49 ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-12 19:12 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2014-11-12 19:30 ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-12 20:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-12 20:56 ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-12 23:06 ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-12 23:17 ` Nic Ferrier
2014-11-13 1:29 ` Leo Liu
2014-11-13 5:21 ` Drew Adams
2014-11-14 5:16 ` Leo Liu
2014-11-16 12:52 ` Bozhidar Batsov [this message]
2014-11-16 14:16 ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-16 17:22 ` Drew Adams
2014-11-16 19:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-17 2:52 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-17 11:46 ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-17 13:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-16 7:38 ` Damien Cassou
2014-11-20 23:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-21 12:40 ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-21 13:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-21 13:28 ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-21 14:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-24 17:49 ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-24 18:01 ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-05 16:25 ` Drew Adams
2014-11-05 17:21 ` Artur Malabarba
2014-11-05 18:27 ` Drew Adams
2014-11-05 17:22 ` Damien Cassou
2014-11-05 18:28 ` Drew Adams
2014-11-05 17:41 ` Nicolas Petton
2014-11-05 18:23 ` Tom Tromey
2014-11-05 18:29 ` Drew Adams
2014-11-05 18:29 ` Drew Adams
2014-11-06 4:39 ` Richard Stallman
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