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* How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?
@ 2006-12-10 18:41 Ronald
  2006-12-10 20:40 ` Leo
       [not found] ` <mailman.1720.1165783277.2155.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
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From: Ronald @ 2006-12-10 18:41 UTC (permalink / raw)


a built-in method is better 

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* Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?
  2006-12-10 18:41 How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X? Ronald
@ 2006-12-10 20:40 ` Leo
       [not found] ` <mailman.1720.1165783277.2155.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
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From: Leo @ 2006-12-10 20:40 UTC (permalink / raw)


* [2006.12.10] Ronald wrote:
               ^^^^^^
> a built-in method is better 

'C-h n' and read the entry about full-screen. You might find something
useful.

-- 
Leo

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* Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?
       [not found] ` <mailman.1720.1165783277.2155.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
@ 2006-12-10 21:38   ` Ronald
  2006-12-10 22:14     ` Hadron Quark
  2006-12-11 20:40     ` Tim X
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 24+ messages in thread
From: Ronald @ 2006-12-10 21:38 UTC (permalink / raw)


Leo wrote:
> * [2006.12.10] Ronald wrote:
>                ^^^^^^
>> a built-in method is better 
> 
> 'C-h n' and read the entry about full-screen. You might find something
> useful.
> 
There is nothing about this.

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* Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?
  2006-12-10 21:38   ` Ronald
@ 2006-12-10 22:14     ` Hadron Quark
  2006-12-10 22:56       ` Ronald
  2006-12-11 20:40     ` Tim X
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread
From: Hadron Quark @ 2006-12-10 22:14 UTC (permalink / raw)


Ronald <followait@163.com> writes:

> Leo wrote:
>> * [2006.12.10] Ronald wrote:
>>                ^^^^^^
>>> a built-in method is better 
>>
>> 'C-h n' and read the entry about full-screen. You might find something
>> useful.
>>
> There is nothing about this.

I have "--fullscreen" on my start icon.

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* Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?
  2006-12-10 22:14     ` Hadron Quark
@ 2006-12-10 22:56       ` Ronald
  2006-12-10 23:03         ` Hadron Quark
                           ` (2 more replies)
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From: Ronald @ 2006-12-10 22:56 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hadron Quark wrote:
> Ronald <followait@163.com> writes:
> 
>> Leo wrote:
>>> * [2006.12.10] Ronald wrote:
>>>                ^^^^^^
>>>> a built-in method is better 
>>> 'C-h n' and read the entry about full-screen. You might find something
>>> useful.
>>>
>> There is nothing about this.
> 
> I have "--fullscreen" on my start icon.

I'm not using a XEmacs, and it doesn't support this parameter.

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* Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?
  2006-12-10 22:56       ` Ronald
@ 2006-12-10 23:03         ` Hadron Quark
  2006-12-10 23:43         ` Leo
       [not found]         ` <mailman.1730.1165794226.2155.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread
From: Hadron Quark @ 2006-12-10 23:03 UTC (permalink / raw)


Ronald <followait@163.com> writes:

> Hadron Quark wrote:
>> Ronald <followait@163.com> writes:
>>
>>> Leo wrote:
>>>> * [2006.12.10] Ronald wrote:
>>>>                ^^^^^^
>>>>> a built-in method is better 
>>>> 'C-h n' and read the entry about full-screen. You might find something
>>>> useful.
>>>>
>>> There is nothing about this.
>>
>> I have "--fullscreen" on my start icon.
>
> I'm not using a XEmacs, and it doesn't support this parameter.

Unfortunately my crystal ball is broken so I can't really help any further.

-- 

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* Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?
  2006-12-10 22:56       ` Ronald
  2006-12-10 23:03         ` Hadron Quark
@ 2006-12-10 23:43         ` Leo
  2006-12-10 23:54           ` Lennart Borgman
       [not found]           ` <mailman.1731.1165794844.2155.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
       [not found]         ` <mailman.1730.1165794226.2155.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
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From: Leo @ 2006-12-10 23:43 UTC (permalink / raw)


* [2006.12.11 06:56 +0800] Ronald wrote:
                           ^^^^^^
> I'm not using a XEmacs, and it doesn't support this parameter.

Fullscreen is supported in GNU Emacs 22 and later.

-- 
Leo

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* Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?
  2006-12-10 23:43         ` Leo
@ 2006-12-10 23:54           ` Lennart Borgman
       [not found]           ` <mailman.1731.1165794844.2155.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
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From: Lennart Borgman @ 2006-12-10 23:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: help-gnu-emacs

Leo wrote:
> * [2006.12.11 06:56 +0800] Ronald wrote:
>                            ^^^^^^
>   
>> I'm not using a XEmacs, and it doesn't support this parameter.
>>     
>
> Fullscreen is supported in GNU Emacs 22 and later.
>   

Note however that this does not mean "maximized" on MS Windows.

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* Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?
       [not found]         ` <mailman.1730.1165794226.2155.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
@ 2006-12-11  0:16           ` Ronald
  2006-12-11  1:15             ` Dieter Wilhelm
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From: Ronald @ 2006-12-11  0:16 UTC (permalink / raw)


Leo wrote:
> * [2006.12.11 06:56 +0800] Ronald wrote:
>                            ^^^^^^
>> I'm not using a XEmacs, and it doesn't support this parameter.
> 
> Fullscreen is supported in GNU Emacs 22 and later.
> 

Are you kidding?
The lastest version by far is 21.x.

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* Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?
  2006-12-11  0:16           ` Ronald
@ 2006-12-11  1:15             ` Dieter Wilhelm
  2006-12-11  8:50             ` Gian Uberto Lauri
  2006-12-11 20:41             ` Tim X
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread
From: Dieter Wilhelm @ 2006-12-11  1:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: help-gnu-emacs

Ronald <followait@163.com> writes:

> Leo wrote:
>> * [2006.12.11 06:56 +0800] Ronald wrote:
>>                            ^^^^^^
>>> I'm not using a XEmacs, and it doesn't support this parameter.
>>
>> Fullscreen is supported in GNU Emacs 22 and later.
>>
>
> Are you kidding?
> The lastest version by far is 21.x.

Officially you're right, but he meant the developer (CVS) version of
Emacs and this is going to be Emacs 22.  Either build it from the
sources or google for the some precompiled packages of Emacs 22 for
most OSs.  Many User (including me) are using already this version for
their day to day work.

-- 
    Best wishes

    H. Dieter Wilhelm
    Darmstadt, Germany

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* Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?
       [not found]           ` <mailman.1731.1165794844.2155.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
@ 2006-12-11  6:21             ` Person
  2006-12-11  8:13               ` Leo
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From: Person @ 2006-12-11  6:21 UTC (permalink / raw)


Lennart Borgman wrote:
> Leo wrote:
>> * [2006.12.11 06:56 +0800] Ronald wrote:
>>                            ^^^^^^
>>   
>>> I'm not using a XEmacs, and it doesn't support this parameter.
>>>     
>>
>> Fullscreen is supported in GNU Emacs 22 and later.
>>   
> 
> Note however that this does not mean "maximized" on MS Windows.

I am using the Windows version of 22.0.50.1 and I have wondered the 
same thing under XP Pro. Setting the "Run: maximized" shortcut 
property does nothing, and starting Emacs via:

C:\Emacs\bin\runemacs.exe --fullscreen

results in bad behavior - Emacs does not seem to realize that there 
is a toolbar at the bottom of the screen and hence starts with the 
minibuffer hidden behind it. Is there a Windows-safe version of 
--fullscreen?

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* Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?
  2006-12-11  6:21             ` Person
@ 2006-12-11  8:13               ` Leo
       [not found]               ` <mailman.1741.1165824859.2155.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
                                 ` (2 subsequent siblings)
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From: Leo @ 2006-12-11  8:13 UTC (permalink / raw)


* [2006.12.11 00:21 -0600] Person wrote:
                           ^^^^^^
[...]
> I am using the Windows version of 22.0.50.1 and I have wondered the
> same thing under XP Pro. Setting the "Run: maximized" shortcut
> property does nothing, and starting Emacs via:
>
> C:\Emacs\bin\runemacs.exe --fullscreen
>
> results in bad behavior - Emacs does not seem to realize that there is
> a toolbar at the bottom of the screen and hence starts with the
> minibuffer hidden behind it. Is there a Windows-safe version of
> --fullscreen?

That is because:

* [2006.12.11 00:54 +0100] Lennart Borgman wrote:
                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[...]
>> Fullscreen is supported in GNU Emacs 22 and later.
>>   
>
> Note however that this does not mean "maximized" on MS Windows.

-- 
Leo <sdl.web AT gmail.com>                         (GPG Key: 9283AA3F)

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* Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?
  2006-12-11  0:16           ` Ronald
  2006-12-11  1:15             ` Dieter Wilhelm
@ 2006-12-11  8:50             ` Gian Uberto Lauri
  2006-12-11 20:41             ` Tim X
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread
From: Gian Uberto Lauri @ 2006-12-11  8:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: help-gnu-emacs

>>>>> "R" == Ronald  <followait@163.com> writes:

R> Leo wrote:
>> * [2006.12.11 06:56 +0800] Ronald wrote: ^^^^^^
>>> I'm not using a XEmacs, and it doesn't support this parameter.
>> 
>> Fullscreen is supported in GNU Emacs 22 and later.
>> 

R> Are you kidding?
R> The lastest version by far is 21.x.

Nope, he's using CVS :)

-- 
 /\           ___
/___/\_|_|\_|__|___Gian Uberto Lauri_____
  //--\| | \|  |   Integralista GNUslamico
\/                 e coltivatore diretto di Software

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* Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?
       [not found]               ` <mailman.1741.1165824859.2155.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
@ 2006-12-11  8:55                 ` Person
  2006-12-11  9:55                   ` Lennart Borgman
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From: Person @ 2006-12-11  8:55 UTC (permalink / raw)


Leo wrote:
> * [2006.12.11 00:21 -0600] Person wrote:
>                            ^^^^^^
> [...]
>> I am using the Windows version of 22.0.50.1 and I have wondered the
>> same thing under XP Pro. Setting the "Run: maximized" shortcut
>> property does nothing, and starting Emacs via:
>>
>> C:\Emacs\bin\runemacs.exe --fullscreen
>>
>> results in bad behavior - Emacs does not seem to realize that there is
>> a toolbar at the bottom of the screen and hence starts with the
>> minibuffer hidden behind it. Is there a Windows-safe version of
>> --fullscreen?
> 
> That is because:
> 
> * [2006.12.11 00:54 +0100] Lennart Borgman wrote:
>                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> [...]
>>> Fullscreen is supported in GNU Emacs 22 and later.
>>>   
>>
>> Note however that this does not mean "maximized" on MS Windows.

Yes, I saw that, that's why I was asking.  Are you saying "no, there 
is no Windows-safe version of --fullscreen"?

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* Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?
  2006-12-11  6:21             ` Person
  2006-12-11  8:13               ` Leo
       [not found]               ` <mailman.1741.1165824859.2155.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
@ 2006-12-11  9:22               ` Juanma Barranquero
       [not found]               ` <mailman.1744.1165828977.2155.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
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From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2006-12-11  9:22 UTC (permalink / raw)


On 12/11/06, Person <facetious_nickname@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Is there a Windows-safe version of
> --fullscreen?

I'd suggest adding

  Emacs.Fullscreen: both
  Emacs.Geometry: 100x50   ; use suitable width x height for your display

to the HKLM\GNU\Emacs registry key, and this to .emacs:

  (add-hook 'window-setup-hook
            #'(lambda () (w32-send-sys-command ?\xF030)))

                    /L/e/k/t/u

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* Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?
  2006-12-11  8:55                 ` Person
@ 2006-12-11  9:55                   ` Lennart Borgman
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From: Lennart Borgman @ 2006-12-11  9:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: help-gnu-emacs

Person wrote:
> Leo wrote:
>> * [2006.12.11 00:21 -0600] Person wrote:
>>                            ^^^^^^
>> [...]
>>> I am using the Windows version of 22.0.50.1 and I have wondered the
>>> same thing under XP Pro. Setting the "Run: maximized" shortcut
>>> property does nothing, and starting Emacs via:
>>>
>>> C:\Emacs\bin\runemacs.exe --fullscreen
>>>
>>> results in bad behavior - Emacs does not seem to realize that there is
>>> a toolbar at the bottom of the screen and hence starts with the
>>> minibuffer hidden behind it. Is there a Windows-safe version of
>>> --fullscreen?
>>
>> That is because:
>>
>> * [2006.12.11 00:54 +0100] Lennart Borgman wrote:
>>                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> [...]
>>>> Fullscreen is supported in GNU Emacs 22 and later.
>>>>   
>>>
>>> Note however that this does not mean "maximized" on MS Windows.
>
> Yes, I saw that, that's why I was asking.  Are you saying "no, there 
> is no Windows-safe version of --fullscreen"?
Instead of --fullscreen you may try to put

        (w32-send-sys-command 61488)

in .emacs. This should maximize the frame (or rather nearly maximize the 
frame since Emacs does not really support maximized windows on MS 
Windows yet).

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* Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?
       [not found]               ` <mailman.1744.1165828977.2155.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
@ 2006-12-11 20:04                 ` Person
  2006-12-11 21:32                   ` Lennart Borgman
                                     ` (2 more replies)
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From: Person @ 2006-12-11 20:04 UTC (permalink / raw)


Juanma Barranquero wrote:
> On 12/11/06, Person <facetious_nickname@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Is there a Windows-safe version of
>> --fullscreen?
> 
> I'd suggest adding
> 
>   Emacs.Fullscreen: both
>   Emacs.Geometry: 100x50   ; use suitable width x height for your display
> 
> to the HKLM\GNU\Emacs registry key, and this to .emacs:
> 
>   (add-hook 'window-setup-hook
>             #'(lambda () (w32-send-sys-command ?\xF030)))

Thank you (and Lennart): I tried this .emacs customization and it 
produces results very, very close to a normal Windows "maximization."

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* Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?
  2006-12-10 21:38   ` Ronald
  2006-12-10 22:14     ` Hadron Quark
@ 2006-12-11 20:40     ` Tim X
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From: Tim X @ 2006-12-11 20:40 UTC (permalink / raw)


Ronald <followait@163.com> writes:

> Leo wrote:
>> * [2006.12.10] Ronald wrote:
>>                ^^^^^^
>>> a built-in method is better 
>>
>> 'C-h n' and read the entry about full-screen. You might find something
>> useful.
>>
> There is nothing about this.

This functionality is part of emacs 22.

Tim

-- 
tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au

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* Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?
  2006-12-11  0:16           ` Ronald
  2006-12-11  1:15             ` Dieter Wilhelm
  2006-12-11  8:50             ` Gian Uberto Lauri
@ 2006-12-11 20:41             ` Tim X
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread
From: Tim X @ 2006-12-11 20:41 UTC (permalink / raw)


Ronald <followait@163.com> writes:

> Leo wrote:
>> * [2006.12.11 06:56 +0800] Ronald wrote:
>>                            ^^^^^^
>>> I'm not using a XEmacs, and it doesn't support this parameter.
>>
>> Fullscreen is supported in GNU Emacs 22 and later.
>>
>
> Are you kidding?
> The lastest version by far is 21.x.

Emacs 22 is the CVS version. Its quite usable - I've been running it
exclusively for over 12 months now.

Tim

-- 
tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au

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* Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?
  2006-12-11 20:04                 ` Person
  2006-12-11 21:32                   ` Lennart Borgman
@ 2006-12-11 21:32                   ` Lennart Borgman
  2006-12-12  1:50                   ` Juanma Barranquero
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread
From: Lennart Borgman @ 2006-12-11 21:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: help-gnu-emacs

Person wrote:
> Juanma Barranquero wrote:
>> On 12/11/06, Person <facetious_nickname@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a Windows-safe version of
>>> --fullscreen?
>>
>> I'd suggest adding
>>
>>   Emacs.Fullscreen: both
>>   Emacs.Geometry: 100x50   ; use suitable width x height for your 
>> display
>>
>> to the HKLM\GNU\Emacs registry key, and this to .emacs:
>>
>>   (add-hook 'window-setup-hook
>>             #'(lambda () (w32-send-sys-command ?\xF030)))
>
> Thank you (and Lennart): I tried this .emacs customization and it 
> produces results very, very close to a normal Windows "maximization."

There are two things missing AFAIK:

1) Not really full screen (no big matter)

2) You can move the maximized window (more irritating) -- but I just saw 
that this happens only on Windows 2000, not on XP.

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* Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?
  2006-12-11 20:04                 ` Person
@ 2006-12-11 21:32                   ` Lennart Borgman
  2006-12-12  1:52                     ` Juanma Barranquero
  2006-12-11 21:32                   ` Lennart Borgman
  2006-12-12  1:50                   ` Juanma Barranquero
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread
From: Lennart Borgman @ 2006-12-11 21:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: help-gnu-emacs

Person wrote:
> Juanma Barranquero wrote:
>> On 12/11/06, Person <facetious_nickname@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a Windows-safe version of
>>> --fullscreen?
>>
>> I'd suggest adding
>>
>>   Emacs.Fullscreen: both
>>   Emacs.Geometry: 100x50   ; use suitable width x height for your 
>> display
>>
>> to the HKLM\GNU\Emacs registry key, and this to .emacs:
>>
>>   (add-hook 'window-setup-hook
>>             #'(lambda () (w32-send-sys-command ?\xF030)))
>
> Thank you (and Lennart): I tried this .emacs customization and it 
> produces results very, very close to a normal Windows "maximization."

There are two things missing AFAIK:

1) Not really full screen (no big matter)

2) You can move the maximized window (more irritating) -- but I just saw 
that this happens only on Windows 2000, not on XP.

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* Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?
  2006-12-11 20:04                 ` Person
  2006-12-11 21:32                   ` Lennart Borgman
  2006-12-11 21:32                   ` Lennart Borgman
@ 2006-12-12  1:50                   ` Juanma Barranquero
  2006-12-12 12:30                     ` Juanma Barranquero
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 24+ messages in thread
From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2006-12-12  1:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: help-gnu-emacs

On 12/11/06, Person <facetious_nickname@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you (and Lennart): I tried this .emacs customization and it
> produces results very, very close to a normal Windows "maximization."

I recommend using also the registry entries I mentioned; they are
useful because with them Emacs already starts with a size approximate
to that of the final "maximized" state, so you reduce the flicker
effect of starting a small Emacs window which is immediately
maximized.

                    /L/e/k/t/u

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* Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?
  2006-12-11 21:32                   ` Lennart Borgman
@ 2006-12-12  1:52                     ` Juanma Barranquero
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread
From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2006-12-12  1:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: help-gnu-emacs, Person

On 12/11/06, Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se> wrote:

> 2) You can move the maximized window (more irritating) -- but I just saw
> that this happens only on Windows 2000, not on XP.

Inexact. In the XP Pro I use at work, I cannot move the "maximized"
window; in my laptop's XP Home, I can.

                    /L/e/k/t/u

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* Re: How to start emacs in a maximized frame in X?
  2006-12-12  1:50                   ` Juanma Barranquero
@ 2006-12-12 12:30                     ` Juanma Barranquero
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 24+ messages in thread
From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2006-12-12 12:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: help-gnu-emacs

On 12/12/06, Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com> wrote:

> I recommend using also the registry entries I mentioned

BTW,

  Emacs.Fullscreen: both

should really be

  Emacs.Fullscreen: fullboth

                    /L/e/k/t/u

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2006-12-11  1:15             ` Dieter Wilhelm
2006-12-11  8:50             ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2006-12-11 20:41             ` Tim X
2006-12-11 20:40     ` Tim X

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