* Diagnosing a curious minibuffer problem (proliferating, weird initial contents)
@ 2015-01-20 17:05 Florian v. Savigny
2015-01-21 4:26 ` Michael Heerdegen
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From: Florian v. Savigny @ 2015-01-20 17:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Dear wizards,
I need some assistance on how to pinpoint, diagnose and/or reproduce a
problem with minibuffer initial contents. I tend to think that I
caused this problem myself, but since I have deactivated (i.e. moved to a
file that is not loaded) the function which I would most consider
suspicious, I am at a loss.
The symptoms are as follows:
- When I start Emacs, and for a good deal of activity, everything is
normal.
- After a while (and I cannot specify it more exactly; the moment when
it starts seems unpredictable), commands which use completing-read
(even M-x, but also functions which I have written myself) start to
have inappropriate stuff as initial content. As far as I can
remember, this inappropriate stuff is all file names.
- If this goes on longer, more inappropriate stuff is appended to the
initial content, i.e. after a while, e.g. M-x offers you a long
string of concatenated file names. You can either choose to delete
this long monster, or you can get rid of it by typing M-p, which
gives you shorter minibuffer contents.
- and so on (the monster gets longer and longer)
[speculation]
To me, this looks as if functions which use completing-read consult
some variable to decide what to use as INITIAL-INPUT, and I have
somehow managed to systematically clutter this variable. This is a bit
weird, though, because they usually offer just completion, no intial
contents. And it's just one possibility anyway.
[/speculation]
I have no idea how to get to the root of the problem. I cannot edebug
completing-read, in any case. (That is what I would try otherwise,
anyway.)
Can anybody give me any advice on how to pinpoint, isolate, reproduce,
provoke this problem? I would be awfully grateful, because my "Emacs
system" is complex and I need to run it every day.
Thank you so much!
Best regards,
Florian
--
Florian von Savigny
Melanchthonstr. 41
33615 Bielefeld
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* RE: Diagnosing a curious minibuffer problem (proliferating, weird initial contents)
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@ 2015-01-20 17:49 ` Drew Adams
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From: Drew Adams @ 2015-01-20 17:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Florian v. Savigny, help-gnu-emacs
> - After a while (and I cannot specify it more exactly; the moment when
> it starts seems unpredictable), commands which use completing-read
> (even M-x, but also functions which I have written myself) start to
> have inappropriate stuff as initial content. As far as I can
> remember, this inappropriate stuff is all file names.
>
> - If this goes on longer, more inappropriate stuff is appended to the
> initial content, i.e. after a while, e.g. M-x offers you a long
> string of concatenated file names. You can either choose to delete
> this long monster, or you can get rid of it by typing M-p, which
> gives you shorter minibuffer contents.
>
> Can anybody give me any advice on how to pinpoint, isolate, reproduce,
> provoke this problem? I would be awfully grateful, because my "Emacs
> system" is complex and I need to run it every day.
First of all, check what happens without your init file: `emacs -Q'.
If you see the same problem, try to note a recipe to reproduce it and
file a bug report, giving that recipe: `M-x report-emacs-bug'.
If you do not see the problem with `emacs -Q' then recursively bisect
your init file to find the culprit code. You can use command
`comment-region' to comment out 1/2 of it, then 3/4, then 7/8, 15/16, etc.
You can use `C-u' with `comment-region' to uncomment the region.
This is a *binary search*, so it is very quick. It is the way to proceed
always, but *especially* if your "Emacs system is complex". Do not
try to debug a giant sac of stuff - break it down systematically.
If you have a question after finding the culprit code/setting, post it here.
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* Re: Diagnosing a curious minibuffer problem (proliferating, weird initial contents)
2015-01-20 17:05 Florian v. Savigny
@ 2015-01-21 4:26 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-01-21 8:31 ` Marcin Borkowski
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Michael Heerdegen @ 2015-01-21 4:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
florian@fsavigny.de (Florian v. Savigny) writes:
> I have no idea how to get to the root of the problem. I cannot edebug
> completing-read, in any case. (That is what I would try otherwise,
> anyway.)
I would try trace-function-background on completing-read and check with
which args it is called when the problem appears. Especially check the
INITIAL-INPUT arg.
In any case, using the normal debugger (not edebug) is useful,
e.g. debug-on-entry completing-read, check how it is called etc.
Check elements of minibuffer-setup-hook whether there could be the
culprit.
Finally, the mysterious initial inputs must be stored somewhere. Try to
find out with `apropos-value'.
Michael.
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* Re: Diagnosing a curious minibuffer problem (proliferating, weird initial contents)
2015-01-21 4:26 ` Michael Heerdegen
@ 2015-01-21 8:31 ` Marcin Borkowski
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From: Marcin Borkowski @ 2015-01-21 8:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
On 2015-01-21, at 05:26, Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de> wrote:
> Finally, the mysterious initial inputs must be stored somewhere. Try to
> find out with `apropos-value'.
Good point. Also, rzgrep-ing through Emacs Lisp sources might help.
> Michael.
Hth,
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science
Adam Mickiewicz University
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