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From: "Clément Pit-Claudel" <cpitclaudel@gmail.com>
To: Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>,
	Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Easy configuration of a site-lisp directory
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 13:35:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <eda702f9-4c95-7dcc-8408-313b111782e0@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP_d_8WfyvwaCyS2dZhuGDX3Use0H3CdmL03RJ-HdaN3xfT0Qg@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/10/21 11:10 AM, Yuri Khan wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Aug 2021 at 21:01, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> 
>>> I have an unconfirmed guess that some people want not only to see the
>>> code but also hack it. In this use case, it is desirable for M-. to
>>> take them to the actual hackable code so that any changes persist
>>> across Emacs restarts and are seen by version control.
>>
>> But the .el.gz files that Emacs displays _are_ "hackable", in the
>> sense that you can modify it and then save the results.  Right?
> 
> Right… technically.
> 
> 0. I[*] have an itch and go to scratch it. M-. takes me to an .el.gz
> somewhere in /usr/share/emacs.
> 1. I want to start hacking but the buffer is read-only because (x): my
> regular user does not have write access to system-wide
> platform-independent files.
> 1a. I can switch to the hackable /home/me/src/emacs/lisp/{filename}.el
> right away while lamenting that M-. did not take me right there, or
> 1b. I can press C-x C-q to remove the readonlyness. For the sake of
> argument, let’s see where this leads.
> 2. I make a change and want to save it. I cannot because (x).
> 2a. Again, at this point, I can C-x C-w
> /home/you/src/emacs/lisp/{filename}.el, cursing under my breath.
> Alternatively,
> 2b. Since I have admin rights, I can take ownership or loosen access
> rights on the file so I can save it. Again, let’s say I do this just
> to prove a point.
> 3. I finish my work and want to do a self-review before committing.
> But /usr/share/emacs is not under version control and I did not make a
> backup and now I still have to go to my git clone.

I think that's a perfect description of my typical flow :) And I think Arthur's suggestion is right: I shouldn't make install, just run from src/.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-08-10 17:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-08 15:40 Easy configuration of a site-lisp directory Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-08 18:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-08 18:53   ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-08 20:03     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-08 22:43   ` dick
2021-08-08 23:16     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-09  0:43       ` dick
2021-08-09  3:13         ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-08-09 16:59           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-09 18:33             ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-08-09 18:49               ` dick
2021-08-09 22:11                 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-08-10  8:24                   ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-10  8:31                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-09 18:52               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-09 22:14                 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-08-10 11:55                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-10  8:10               ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-10 12:06                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-10 13:43                   ` Yuri Khan
2021-08-10 14:01                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-10 15:10                       ` Yuri Khan
2021-08-10 15:39                         ` dick
2021-08-10 15:49                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-10 17:31                           ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-10 15:44                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-10 17:25                           ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-08-10 17:50                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-10 18:06                               ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-08-10 18:23                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-10 20:51                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-11  2:23                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-11  5:31                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-11 13:42                                     ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-08-11 16:34                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-11 18:21                                         ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-08-12  5:48                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-10 17:35                         ` Clément Pit-Claudel [this message]
2021-08-10 17:24                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-10 17:22                   ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-10 17:45                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-09  6:52     ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-09 11:50       ` dick
2021-08-09 15:27         ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-19  9:25 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-19 20:24   ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-19 21:43     ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-19 21:47       ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-19 21:59         ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-20  0:21           ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-20 21:36             ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-21  1:56               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-21  2:46                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-21  3:12                   ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-21  6:39                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-21  6:48                       ` tomas
2021-08-21  7:00                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-21  7:19                           ` symlinks and W32 [was: Easy configuration of a site-lisp directory] tomas
2021-08-21 14:15                             ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-21 14:20                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-21 19:12                                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-21 14:34                       ` Easy configuration of a site-lisp directory Arthur Miller
2021-08-21 14:42                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-21 19:10                           ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-21 19:18                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-21 20:25                               ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-22  6:03                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-25 10:47     ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-25 22:13       ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-26  9:42         ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-26 15:58           ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-20 10:23   ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-08-20 12:47     ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-23  9:14 ` Max Brieiev
2021-08-24 21:35   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-25 11:13     ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-25 14:37       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-25 14:55         ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-25 17:27           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-26  0:16             ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-26  4:10               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-26 15:38                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-26 18:03                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-26 21:40                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-25 22:29           ` Arthur Miller
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-08-12  2:44 No Wayman
2021-08-12 12:41 ` dick
2021-08-12 14:48   ` No Wayman
2021-08-12 16:24     ` dick

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