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From: "Stephane Travostino" <sph@combo.cc>
To: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 72960@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#72960: 31.0.50; PGTK Wayland exhibits more lag than X11 version
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2024 13:12:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ed3540a9-013c-46fd-bc11-0bb771d810c1@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86mskq8dlm.fsf@gnu.org>

On Mon, 2 Sep 2024, at 13:05, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2024 10:18:03 +0100
>> From: "Stephane Travostino" <sph@combo.cc>
>> 
>> Heavy operations, such as scrolling back and forth in a buffer, are
>> noticeably laggier, for lack of better word, in the PGTK/Wayland version
>> than the X11, both tested on KDE in Wayland mode. 
>> 
>> Affects both 29.2 and the latest HEAD compiled a few days ago.
>> 
>> I am unsure whether it is a KDE or Emacs problem.
>> 
>> Running on an AMD RX 6800 XT graphics card on a HiDPI 4k screen at 2x
>> scaling.
>
> AFAIU, this is a problem with GTK input methods.  From PROBLEMS:
>
>   *** Emacs built with GTK lags in its response to keyboard input.
>   This can happen when input methods are used.  It happens because Emacs
>   behaves in an unconventional way with respect to GTK input methods: it
>   registers to receive keyboard input as unprocessed key events with
>   metadata (as opposed to receiving them as text strings).  Most GTK
>   programs use the latter approach, so some modern input methods have
>   bugs and misbehave when faced with the way Emacs does it.
>
>   A workaround is to set GTK_IM_MODULE=none in the environment, or maybe
>   find a different input method without these problems.

Thank you, though without more scientific methods of measuring latency I can't tell if that helps or not. 

I noticed I had pixel precision scrolling mode on and that contributed a large part to that feeling of lag compared to other programs. If Firefox is able to smooth scroll at 60 Hz, I would say empirically Emacs PGTK would scroll at 15 Hz, making navigation in the buffer a choppy affair. 





  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-02 12:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-02  9:18 bug#72960: 31.0.50; PGTK Wayland exhibits more lag than X11 version Stephane Travostino
2024-09-02 12:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-02 12:12   ` Stephane Travostino [this message]
2024-09-03 11:27     ` Stephane Travostino
2024-09-03 12:52       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-03 15:36         ` Stephane Travostino
2024-09-03 16:01           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-04  0:58             ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-09-04  0:57         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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