From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Elena Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Redefining functions and variables Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 03:28:00 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <68e690c9-aece-461d-afe9-ca9115ceaee5@m1g2000vbh.googlegroups.com> <76fd4dc4-a964-4629-90e2-329e1b83fd8d@h25g2000vba.googlegroups.com> <876300fnpk.fsf@fh-trier.de> <55e481e3-b894-499f-80b3-1c96b2c338ce@d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> <61db17c1-8c30-44a1-b96e-9eec802156fe@j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> <87tynjl9x3.fsf@fh-trier.de> <87hbjjibrk.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <08217e84-b4a0-4dd0-afbf-abd4d762c759@w30g2000yqw.googlegroups.com> <877hkeiozz.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291859852 10920 80.91.229.12 (9 Dec 2010 01:57:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 01:57:32 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 09 02:57:28 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQVl8-00075S-Fc for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2010 02:57:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43449 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PQVl7-00016e-UL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 20:57:26 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 38 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 89.96.190.244 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1280399280 26292 127.0.0.1 (29 Jul 2010 10:28:00 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:28:00 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com; posting-host=89.96.190.244; posting-account=AFCLjAoAAABJAOf_HjgEEEi3ty-lG5m2 User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100722 Firefox/3.6.8,gzip(gfe) Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:180180 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:76428 Archived-At: On Jul 29, 10:03=A0am, p...@informatimago.com (Pascal J. Bourguignon) wrote: > the "..." are only used to display the list when print-length or > eval-expression-print-length are not nil. =A0See also print-level and > eval-expression-print-level. Didn't know about this. Thanks. > %s can format symbols too: > > (format ">> %s <<" 'example) > ;; --> ">> example <<" > > And you had your the old defun inside the when! Gosh! What an oversight... Sorry. > Note: while name is known at macroexpansion time, you should refrain > to insert it in the string like this: > > =A0 =A0 =A0 (message ,(format "Warning: %s is being redefined in %%s." na= me) load-file-name) > > since name could contain percents and then you'd have build a wrong > format string for message. I don't understand this. Doc about `message' says: > Note: Use (message "%s" VALUE) to print the value of expressions and > variables to avoid accidentally interpreting `%' as format specifiers. And in fact: (message "%s" 'example%) correctly outputs: "example%"