From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ken Brown Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23446: 25.0.93; cursor-sensor-inhibit Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 18:00:06 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87h9eekmit.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87zis5eq4n.fsf@russet.org.uk> <6dec109f-8a2d-27ff-f9ae-f1db0b242059@cornell.edu> <87pot134ev.fsf@russet.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1462399301 31430 80.91.229.3 (4 May 2016 22:01:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 22:01:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 23446@debbugs.gnu.org To: Phillip Lord Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 05 00:01:31 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ay4rK-0005dB-V2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 May 2016 00:01:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50521 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ay4rH-0003Xl-4f for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:01:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41185) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ay4r7-0003KG-FG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:01:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ay4qv-0002lA-P0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:01:12 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:54320) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ay4qv-0002iu-Lw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:01:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ay4qs-0000mL-87 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:01:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ken Brown Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 22:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23446 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 23446-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23446.14623992152926 (code B ref 23446); Wed, 04 May 2016 22:01:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23446) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 May 2016 22:00:15 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38424 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ay4q7-0000l8-46 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:00:15 -0400 Original-Received: from limerock03.mail.cornell.edu ([128.84.13.243]:56582) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ay4q5-0000ku-MH for 23446@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:00:14 -0400 X-CornellRouted: This message has been Routed already. Original-Received: from authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (granite3.serverfarm.cornell.edu [10.16.197.8]) by limerock03.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4_cu) with ESMTP id u44M07G7009122; Wed, 4 May 2016 18:00:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.1.3] (mta-68-175-148-36.twcny.rr.com [68.175.148.36] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id u44M0637008814 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 4 May 2016 18:00:07 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.0 In-Reply-To: <87pot134ev.fsf@russet.org.uk> X-PMX-Cornell-Gauge: Gauge=XXXXX X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:117812 Archived-At: On 5/4/2016 5:21 PM, Phillip Lord wrote: > Ken Brown writes: > >> On 5/4/2016 12:37 PM, Phillip Lord wrote: >>> Ken Brown writes: >>> >>>> On 5/4/2016 8:58 AM, Phillip Lord wrote: >>>>> I am getting the following error from a freshly bootstrapped emacs >>>>> launching with emacs -q >>>>> >>>>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable cursor-sensor-inhibit) >>>> >>>>> I *think* it may be something amiss with loaddefs >>>> >>>> Try 'make -C lisp autoloads'. >>> >>> >>> I think you are on the right track. >>> >>> I often build out-of-source, where you can clean by just deleting >>> everything. But, this does not clean either loaddefs.el or the elc >>> files. >> >> 'make bootstrap' *does* remove loaddefs.el and the elc files, even in an >> out-of-source build. >> >> When you referred to a freshly bootstrapped emacs, did you mean that >> you ran 'make bootstrap'? > > No, I mean build from a clean source tree. I rarely use make bootstrap > for this because you have to run configure first. Normally I clean with > git clean, or just delete the directory for out-of-source. > > So, this looks like up a failure during updating rather than anything > else. No, what happened is that the autoloads files got out of date and needed to be regenerated by 'make -C lisp autoloads', as I said in my first reply. This happens from time to time and is documented in INSTALL.REPO. It works perfectly well in an out-of-source build. If you delete your build directory, however, then you've thrown away your Makefile, and it's too late. The only reason you aren't bitten by this more often is that Glenn periodically updates the autoloads. See, for example, his commit 3cade20. Ken