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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Ingo Lohmar <i.lohmar@gmail.com>, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: 22595@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#22595: 25.1.50; Wishlist: There should be a way to list timers
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 09:37:08 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <eceafd83-d487-4f9f-9caa-19198a26f8e2@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mvr9hkn8.fsf@acer.localhost.com>

> > Many Emacs users interact with Emacs at deeper levels, where a
> > text/overlay property is an object of concern, not just something
> > behind the scenes.  Likewise for other objects: processes, timers,
> > whatever.
> 
> Processes reference external entities that might be created by Emacs,
> but that are, partially or entirely, beyond Emacs' control.  So there is
> a good reason to offer the user a UI to list and control them.

Agreed, and the same is true for hexl mode.  But for a reason to be
good it need not require existence outside Emacs.

> > And we do have UIs for working with overlays or text properties.
> > At least I do.  Likewise, interacting with keymaps and font-lock.
> 
> I am unfamiliar with those UIs, which are they?

Well, I have some commands that let you set or examine or search etc.
such properties.

But I agree that we don't have such UIs in vanilla Emacs.
But we could, and I, for one, would welcome that.

> As I said in an answer to Lars, this is not a crusade to prevent the UI.
> I simply have not read a good argument yet why this additional code
> burden would be a good thing to have in Emacs core.

I agree that it need not be in Emacs core.  I'm just welcoming the
feature.  From my point of view it could be a 3rd-party library
on MELPA.  Or it could be in GNU ELPA.  I see no reason for it to
be in "core" vanilla Emacs, or even in vanilla Emacs.





  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-09 17:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-08  6:15 bug#22595: 25.1.50; Wishlist: There should be a way to list timers Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-08 17:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-09  0:02   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-09  2:36     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-09 14:10     ` Ingo Lohmar
2016-02-09 14:16       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-09 15:16         ` Drew Adams
2016-02-09 17:13           ` Ingo Lohmar
2016-02-09 17:37             ` Drew Adams [this message]
2016-02-09 17:02         ` Ingo Lohmar
2016-02-09 17:31       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-09 18:32         ` Eli Zaretskii

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