From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#59347: 29.0.50; `:family` face setting ignored Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2022 10:51:17 +0000 Message-ID: References: <0d1ea3007f532a493429@heytings.org> <83cz9f12bh.fsf@gnu.org> <835yewleyn.fsf@gnu.org> <83tu2b9rlx.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0347gtu.fsf@gnu.org> <83v8mm2ug7.fsf@gnu.org> <83cz8u2d6u.fsf@gnu.org> <831qp93nsc.fsf@gnu.org> <1a7e3acf3578520feda7@heytings.org> <87ilihjsrb.fsf@yahoo.com> <87o7s8j4id.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37107"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 59347@debbugs.gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 12 11:52:20 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p4gQ0-0009UV-N3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 11:52:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p4gPj-0002N6-Ne; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 05:52:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p4gPi-0002Mp-60 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 05:52:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p4gPh-0007dc-Tp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 05:52:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p4gPh-000061-I9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 05:52:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Gregory Heytings Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2022 10:52:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59347 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 59347-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B59347.1670842280355 (code B ref 59347); Mon, 12 Dec 2022 10:52:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 59347) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Dec 2022 10:51:20 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52153 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p4gP2-00005f-6b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 05:51:20 -0500 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:54584) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1p4gP0-00005Z-MS for 59347@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 05:51:19 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1670842277; bh=QpZHPSB0XZIluY/pRaLSPDeDU0ahMac9P0BX+6oxRzM=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=ZiVFgw4hxN3BBq1kg+gQ3Gc0jADxyGk2xHGZY8apHYflKYYYSypCvhKy3VDkCLDOM RhLVoghC86+uMjaWBSKZwQ73ce3sm3IjDLsmBCIUUfkIxh8gdVk98GNSOgTIXpTRW4 r0YGWoDqqz9JRXUmhDpHkfPDUI0RLgNt0GoN/7gqT/13pEnFlEfzViZ55nGUDlSQZP m20/ZA9C4rjLZbZJX/mfToiVLl2SBfds6JjgW7YCqgk4ZnKXbEwMcoMg2oT29O4TGS 5iWe1X5NN1a2S7AJko8Fl7TdfEtc7hliPKzN1aMDgvg70G7LdJ34nLbo3iRKtbWcX5 KrCVExfFDG/aA== In-Reply-To: <87o7s8j4id.fsf@yahoo.com> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:250693 Archived-At: > > No matter whether or not a variable is supposed to be changed by the > user, it must not be a bitmask! And in general, it must not be > confusing to users. Users are supposed to debug Emacs. > They are not supposed to debug a (very subtle) part of the code they do not understand. > > Then feel free to write a better doc string, instead of outright > reverting the change. The only requirement is that it must describe the > variable in terms that users can understand, even if it is somewhat > vague. > That's not possible. You would understand that if you had read the post upthread in which I describe in every detail what that variable does and why. But you don't care, apparently. > > If users are not supposed to set the variable, then delete it > completely. Otherwise, users will set it, and documentation they cannot > understand is just asking for trouble. > That variable was added because Eli asked for it, to help debugging future problems in that (very subtle) area on the code. But I already said that three or four times, and you don't care, apparently.