From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "David House" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why @#! is not Emacs using the Recycle bin on w32? Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:31:52 +0100 Message-ID: References: <48B7288E.3040503@gmail.com> <48B7B0BD.9040505@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1219998830 4011 80.91.229.12 (29 Aug 2008 08:33:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:33:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Devel To: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 29 10:34:44 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KYzPj-0006U7-K8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:33:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37046 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KYzOl-0003zD-2b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:32:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KYzOd-0003wb-No for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:31:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KYzOd-0003wJ-8l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:31:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38603 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KYzOc-0003wF-Sl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:31:55 -0400 Original-Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.44.152]:51836) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KYzOc-0007Yq-IF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:31:54 -0400 Original-Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 34so412410yxf.66 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:31:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=f5EineHfrYPyvMvl3yKp9vBwuZMUK3gfdSAvBy3yoxg=; b=tIPbRKtBET9HYwWr+BG+bRSPPRQRU1vERG8IwkwJao2WITCzTusN/qrjXdBA4fd9HF GBYj6S7J3VHBaR6fnJlkFlbBJs0a6RN9NbA5a1v/HXypYqRXENKdKBDHeOy8TQ9DWjUl k9VgyFUJ8nWUaGpc3u+LPBxrxdxsvP7glDE0g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=llrCd54GTvXCdkzkrG8JOHh/gmaO8pH5rhjQ9KYn4DREj2jI/aHclxek7j0R072JZb DKhJiCdbhuFxFqC2tLVFlM6AcPKDm+bFs5JqfSIPbZzSsjKdTlfxfWI5Ha7UFpZRXWRv mYTdFYUu9TAAXvzqc22VFGMDRUe7k8gg/yssM= Original-Received: by 10.151.102.21 with SMTP id e21mr3725270ybm.193.1219998712952; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.150.192.3 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:31:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <48B7B0BD.9040505@gmail.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103150 2008/8/29 Lennart Borgman (gmail) : >> But being a sensible user, you have backups, right? > > Please do not try to be smart. Well, let's see. You accidentally deleted a file important to you, and then sent an angry post to the mailing list. I'm suggesting what happened was at least partially your fault, as you could have just calmed down, restored from your backups, and gone on with your day. Note that nothing in the above expresses an opinion as to whether Emacs should delete using `rem' or by sending files to the Recycle Bin. To be honest, I somewhat agree with you, I think Emacs' actions should probably be reversible by default. The "Emacs didn't delete my secure file" complaint isn't valid, I don't think, because if you're deleting secure files, `dired-do-delete' as it stands still doesn't properly delete them. -- -David