From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: Emacs Book Vs Emacs Manuals Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 10:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <> <<87egmqc2c9.fsf@mbork.pl> <83d22ap4ze.fsf@gnu.org>> <<87k2wfl6mo.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk>> <<83617zm78t.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1431364344 21305 80.91.229.3 (11 May 2015 17:12:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 17:12:24 +0000 (UTC) To: Eli Zaretskii , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 11 19:12:13 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YrrFV-0000Pb-62 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 May 2015 19:12:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38849 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YrrFU-0000QM-Jq for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 May 2015 13:12:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46312) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YrrF5-0000Em-Qu for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2015 13:11:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YrrF4-0005Ip-VK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2015 13:11:47 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:32485) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YrrF0-0005I0-RE; Mon, 11 May 2015 13:11:42 -0400 Original-Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t4BHBgxi023415 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 11 May 2015 17:11:42 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t4BHBgG4011371 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 11 May 2015 17:11:42 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0018.oracle.com (abhmp0018.oracle.com [141.146.116.24]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t4BHBgpA030330; Mon, 11 May 2015 17:11:42 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83617zm78t.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:104391 Archived-At: > I personally don't like tutorials that require me to read too much > before I can do something with the package) Yes, a tutorial should be learning by *doing*. (A user guide is something else.)