From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: philip-agee@africamel.net Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#49139: Cannot delete *help* buffer Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2021 16:04:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_60d09c59_6afa_5bb5653c" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2661"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Stephen Berman , 49139@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Lars Ingebrigtsen" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 21 16:23:19 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lvKpa-0000PH-0s for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 21 Jun 2021 16:23:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37738 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lvKpZ-0001V5-0R for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 21 Jun 2021 10:23:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33868) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lvKpM-0001SC-Nv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jun 2021 10:23:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:53457) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lvKpL-0007db-4R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jun 2021 10:23:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lvKpL-00083A-23 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jun 2021 10:23:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: philip-agee@africamel.net Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2021 14:23:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 49139 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 49139-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B49139.162428536230863 (code B ref 49139); Mon, 21 Jun 2021 14:23:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 49139) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jun 2021 14:22:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36764 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lvKoz-00081j-KS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jun 2021 10:22:42 -0400 Original-Received: from ip-8.mailobj.net ([213.182.54.8]:52820 helo=msg-3.mailo.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lvKXF-0007Sg-Rd for 49139@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jun 2021 10:04:24 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=africamel.net; s=mailo; t=1624284249; bh=IbuJpda2mfojU0QfyPvIKkRx5ukLQd3/PzXWOdoiQC8=; h=X-EA-Auth:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:MIME-Version:X-Mailer: Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=sqTW0KjLnVtHFc9hicaRPnT/a3jmQWLr6oY6BDcNa6bdouanjDjxmhBdtzWESbOWC nE3bi1g8fVPLnAnfjOUZ2nJW1XJTamu/NmGKfzbJWAbvZNTfmRrV+xFKpyzsRZiKVi a5hR5s2c3XfVj1asrUnsr8+uIzHoxmLpUdR9jM6E= Original-Received: by www-7.mailo.com with http webmail; Mon, 21 Jun 2021 16:04:09 +0200 (CEST) X-EA-Auth: kG39/laQka7kC+g6qchtX+ZGjcJaQ3bl6efBMCqCLd3o4J4zW4ulzAGJca39z4atNRs3irSjHaxV4HdDDq8lYSXegb1Gucxu X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: COMS/EA21.01/r20210601 In-Reply-To: <87a6njs6d6.fsf@gnus.org> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 21 Jun 2021 10:22:40 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:208823 Archived-At: ------=_NextPart_001_60d09c59_6afa_5bb5653c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What are the buffers to be hidden ? Could emacs use a different icon than "= Red Cross" to show that it hides the buffer instead of killing it.=C2=A0 Can you incl= ude information on how to actually kill it in the icon tooltip "Preceed by C-u to kill buf= fer". From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: philip-agee@africamel.net Subject: bug#49139: Cannot delete *help* buffer Date: 21/06/2021 15:19:01 Europe/Paris Cc: Stephen Berman ; =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A049139@debbugs.gnu.org philip-agee@africamel.net writes: > I use the help buffer to read documentation or to write some information= =20 > temporarily. Do we really need such complication (C-u) to kill the buffe= r > when just clicking the icon is a standard way to kill it ?. The standard for these buffers in Emacs is to bury them, not killing them. This has been somewhat inconsistently applied in the past and the `q' (and related commands) have sometimes killed the buffers instead, but we're moving more to burying. Closing. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no ------=_NextPart_001_60d09c59_6afa_5bb5653c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What are the buffers to be hidden ? Could emacs use a different icon t= han "Red Cross"
to show that it hides the buffer instea= d of killing it.=C2=A0 Can you include information
on how to actu= ally kill it in the icon tooltip "Preceed by C-u to kill buffer".=


From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <lars= i@gnus.org>
To: philip-agee@africamel.net
Subject: bug#49139: Cannot delete *help* buffer
Date: 21/06/2021 15:19:01 Europe/Paris
Cc: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@gmx.net>;
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A049139@debbugs.gnu.org

philip-agee@africamel.net writes:

> I use the help buffer to read documentation or to write some informat= ion
> temporarily. Do we really need such complication (C-u) to kill the b= uffer
> when just clicking the icon is a standard way to kill it ?.

The standard for these buffers in Emacs is to bury them, not killing
them. This has been somewhat inconsistently applied in the past and the `q' (and related commands) have sometimes killed the buffers instead,
but we're moving more to burying.

Closing.

--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no



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