From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: arvid-harnack@lavache.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: icomplete-vertical-mode not taking effect Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2021 18:02:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7318"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: 2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE@potatochowder.com, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 20 18:03:58 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1luzvS-0001fU-CL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 18:03:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44086 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1luzvR-0000PA-De for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 12:03:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56674) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1luzuu-0000P1-0v for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 12:03:24 -0400 Original-Received: from msg-1.mailo.com ([213.182.54.11]:40030) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1luzuq-0005jT-3A for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 12:03:23 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=lavache.com; s=mailo; t=1624204965; bh=FCfIj9IDOXRCJCohwAGhhbUUsFpmpNdq3yBPY5/3Cpc=; h=X-EA-Auth:From:To:Date:Subject:MIME-Version:X-Mailer:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=IVzz6s90yS4X+PhLrCOp0x7+DXbZod9YQ76Kdlv/UDGnGKPXrjOcnXr0a4ofxYpBV QEsfiHQQkvKNlVFPO5VGdb/HQTK1b2jKY+GLsazTjmO2MKDzHbMgjgqHlVmG6bM2K0 D0G3YxLCFheM2lPLwWVYdfNIFd147iiWzKt+MiQw= Original-Received: by www-8.mailo.com with http webmail; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 18:02:45 +0200 (CEST) X-EA-Auth: A0fiT+tTZRnVROrmNi2hlEc0ygERZ/mKGQqg5KbaOjWad8Z7DYAe5OtEuMP2AkkOzotkmyNgE0/wqs+GG978BA3dHZivEUck X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: COMS/EA21.01/r20210601 In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=213.182.54.11; envelope-from=arvid-harnack@lavache.com; helo=msg-1.mailo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:131101 Archived-At: >From: 2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE@potatochowder.com >To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org >Subject: Re: icomplete-vertical-mode not taking effect >Date: 20/06/2021 17:44:19 Europe/Paris >On 2021-06-20 at 17:27:35 +0200, >arvid-harnack@lavache.com wrote: >> I am also disappointed when I see how ivy works.=C2=A0 But helm and ivy= are >> both too big.=C2=A0 Furthermore, they are external packages. icomplete = can >> more easily implement a vertical mode with not much complication than >> using ivy.=C2=A0 It is very easy to criticise me about my attitude than >> recognising a bad job.=C2=A0 I know it is in development stage, but it = is a >> crucial stage for change before the implementation hardens in place.=C2= =A0 >> Otherwise it will be much harder for suggestions to be applied. >As per https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html: >=E2=80=9CFree software=E2=80=9D means that ... the users have the freedom= to run, >copy, distribute, study, change and improve the software. >Evidently, the existing completion frameworks fail to meet your >standards and expectations. I think it's safe to infer that you've run >various frameworks. I don't know whether you've copied or distributed >them. Your commentary indicates a certain level of study, at least from >a user's perspective. IMO, the next steps are clear. And to many others, I am sure.=C2=A0 You are right, I have run various frameworks.=C2=A0 some copied, some written.=C2=A0 But to write can be hindered by the tools that are available.=C2=A0 It is very easy to break some other thing.=C2=A0 The quality I end up with also depends on the quality of the work of others.=C2=A0 And I have many years of experience with testing department in a global technology leader.