From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: arvid-harnack@lavache.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: icomplete-vertical-mode not taking effect Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2021 17:27:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7737"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Ergus , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, moasenwood@zoho.eu To: "Jean Louis" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 20 17:29:00 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1luzNb-0001oy-RC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 17:28:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52660 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1luzNa-0002UB-Bf for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 11:28:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51838) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1luzMu-0002Ts-N5 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 11:28:16 -0400 Original-Received: from msg-1.mailo.com ([213.182.54.11]:38772) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1luzMs-0008Hu-06 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 11:28:16 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=lavache.com; s=mailo; t=1624202855; bh=/4b2PmGRKKrcWvLdim7X4UsvgOc8rW9rr69km4EOM4g=; h=X-EA-Auth:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:MIME-Version:X-Mailer: Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=WJyQZy9wg/jDpduYqKDr5xfobQJFjhyPLS1uojEAKrcgOubwSwWAAgH4FyncwWqsV bkw4DVKu6Ws4pUNFV/CyTYUnXSV2eKtHstVDCGTQYLzopgCp6o7e1A3YA+I/6vbIOW +qv1tGMk8ZqBCSSwTFdVFe8nkB7q59C2qM4T34XA= Original-Received: by www-8.mailo.com with http webmail; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 17:27:35 +0200 (CEST) X-EA-Auth: OqeBDo3vc0DTU6A/hJDrAcU8oQmi9vVc2Q9h5cDkTpiAdH8tqqn9V+7LaGS0YGCJ2EXyMU6P57w0PoReStAYqrrxTktfh3hb X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: COMS/EA21.01/r20210601 In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=213.182.54.11; envelope-from=arvid-harnack@lavache.com; helo=msg-1.mailo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:131099 Archived-At: >From: Jean Louis >To: arvid-harnack@lavache.com >Subject: Re: icomplete-vertical-mode not taking effect >Date: 20/06/2021 13:46:28 Europe/Paris >Cc: Ergus ; >=C2=A0=C2=A0 help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; >=C2=A0=C2=A0 moasenwood@zoho.eu >* arvid-harnack@lavache.com [2021-06-20 14:34= ]: >> I have pointed out that the idea of making icomplete-vertical as a >> mode created the problem. >If it does create the problem depends from a viewpoint and experience, >knowledge, many various factors. Initially, when I discovered >`fido-mode' and `icomplete-mode' I was disappointed as `helm' and >`ivy-mode' look so much better and user experience is safer. There is >high chance for me personally to make mistakes in the built-in >completion modes.=20 I am also disappointed when I see how ivy works.=C2=A0 But helm and ivy are both too big.=C2=A0 Furthermore, they are external packages. icomplete can more easily implement a vertical mode with not much complication than using ivy.=C2=A0 It is very easy to criticise me about my attitude than recognising a bad job.=C2=A0 I know it is in development stage, but it is a crucial stage for change before the implementation hardens in place.=C2=A0 Otherwise it will be much harder for suggestions to be applied. >The function `icomplete-vertical-mode' should maybe be split into >'fido-vertical-mode' which would invoke `fido-mode' automatically, and >`icomplete-vertical-mode' which would invoke `icomplete-mode' >automatically'. It is yet in the development version of Emacs, it is >not finished issue, even if it is, there is always room to improve >it.