From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: arvid-harnack@lavache.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: icomplete-vertical-mode not taking effect Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2021 21:38:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30819"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs To: "Yuri Khan" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 19 21:39:07 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lugo6-0007li-6O for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 21:39:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56300 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lugo4-0004My-Jp for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 15:39:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44330) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lugnl-0004Mq-LH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 15:38:45 -0400 Original-Received: from ip-8.mailobj.net ([213.182.54.8]:54092 helo=msg-3.mailo.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lugnj-0005Bq-1L for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 15:38:45 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=lavache.com; s=mailo; t=1624131520; bh=xKOxfubvmeXf7pxeL+FkP4KWh+Gb92+ukWvT/vyKkD4=; h=X-EA-Auth:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:MIME-Version:X-Mailer: Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=KGZgpqXNYX4LHPjmIIRs+TJHBYEs5m8VXiQfGqrL0kjnMo1yf+HP/NCKys4JADIeY 0BvyOK7gF3z/yjyQEeAEL8D+f1Ym16aqounhtyTuKUPu059R+TU1aT9VS2A/dywpm+ qLV8tD+tUjxfYwZYeu68I4Cqyy1tB9QQD3DsjQvE= Original-Received: by www-8.mailo.com with http webmail; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 21:38:40 +0200 (CEST) X-EA-Auth: 7GZhmDLAr35yNJBLkp+hjF6UU3d1ia062NKf718l/0vYLDPhIJiKqJGo5abHfwP0iyzzzHQFNRpYZMmKkRbpdG0tGDCG6r7e X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: COMS/EA21.01/r20210601 In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=213.182.54.8; envelope-from=arvid-harnack@lavache.com; helo=msg-3.mailo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:131038 Archived-At: >From: Yuri Khan >To: arvid-harnack@lavache.com >Subject: Re: icomplete-vertical-mode not taking effect >Date: 19/06/2021 21:26:48 Europe/Paris >Cc: help-gnu-emacs >On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 at 02:03, wrote: >> There have been a number op people who agree that the mode enabling >> feels very surprising. The answer one gets is - "it is designed that wa= y". >You have been given a sound reason: =E2=80=98icomplete-vertical-mode=E2= =80=99 can be >used with either =E2=80=98icomplete-mode=E2=80=99 or =E2=80=98fido-mode= =E2=80=99. If it automatically >enabled =E2=80=98icomplete-mode=E2=80=99, it would no longer work with = =E2=80=98fido-mode=E2=80=99. >The name is unfortunate because it is easy to get the idea that it is >=E2=80=9Clike icomplete-mode but vertical=E2=80=9D, but the principle is = good: one >choice between sets of functionality, and an orthogonal choice about >presentation. I find it more unfortunate that one changes the way icomplete results are = displayed and another mode gets screwed.=C2=A0 Certainly it is not a devine plan. icomplete-vertical should be exactly as icomplete.=C2=A0 The way you view = results should be immaterial.=C2=A0 But developers cannot accept it as a problem, expecti= ng users to behave like idiots and pretend it is not a problem.