From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Brett Gilio Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: What OS is used By Richard Stallman Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 23:49:01 -0500 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gbk; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1537851660 29862 195.159.176.226 (25 Sep 2018 05:01:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 05:01:00 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/52.7.0 To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 25 07:00:56 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g4fSs-0007b5-K2 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 07:00:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50821 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g4fUz-00012q-5D for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 01:03:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52725) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g4fTj-0000kz-7i for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 01:01:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g4fHY-0004V5-Kl for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 00:49:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:51675) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g4fHY-0004U5-Aq for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 00:49:08 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E859210EA for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 06:49:05 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1537850945; bh=iYWaqx+1wdA1hwf49LZtL4BHJQAT8v3P7bUzQwMxA0g=; h=Subject:To:From:Date:From; b=X7Zgqa7JiV7BQS2APX+bgDClZCV27claSTLhA7OAXra9MpF2Ox2+8Whh8RyTs0+Ii 59nk5dlYR4I/F2T8MEgJZQABu6hsd/fVs6UZyxOkwEJUk2pHaxkV5Pmnf9CG8A4A4R 11t3eCVzTkbkV6TOHkD7W0LeZdCPrO8AOxvyqwUeD6vBRLXkIQ1YRx2e1p7nbuJl4w QiyQIhUL3JQDUKIBC02xPnuwodrew61CaBW1wVTLLqiRG54FxD6FUisb7uu7ZqNhB+ SZBx75K5iXS1+dOCO7HHAOOlaoo6+r5ROkwEL3ZaRWLFJ2r9n+pCn3lHqsSFwXg0kX kaKozJMwQwTVA== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 42K7rb6MtQz9rxG for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 06:49:03 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 185.67.36.66 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:118004 Archived-At: On 09/24/2018 11:42 PM, microsoft gaofei wrote: > https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html . You said, some private software is also free and isn't released to public domain. Can that be free and closed-source at the same time? No. By the four software freedoms, one must be able to modify the code of any piece of free software. This requires the code in its original, unobfuscated non-binary form. When RMS says that software may be private and free, he likely means that it can be developed by a private business for industry. But, again, for it to be free it must retain the four essential freedoms. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html Best, Brett