From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36826: 26.1; request: add variable value editing feature to the *Help* buffer Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 19:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <87a7cx4g7f.fsf@web.de> <87o91ccp6s.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="157551"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 36826@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen , ndame Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 30 04:44:08 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hsI7U-000erN-AT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Tue, 30 Jul 2019 02:43:48 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2u0xv7v9q4-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 30 Jul 2019 02:43:48 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0015.oracle.com (abhmp0015.oracle.com [141.146.116.21]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id x6U2hk01032118; Tue, 30 Jul 2019 02:43:46 GMT In-Reply-To: <87o91ccp6s.fsf@web.de> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4873.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9333 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=957 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1906280000 definitions=main-1907300026 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9333 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1906280000 definitions=main-1907300026 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:164087 Archived-At: In addition to what Michael said, I'll add this, for those who think Customize is not for Lispers or is otherwise beneath them. If you customize a list-valued option, such as `default-frame-alist', and you use `M-x customize-option' on it, menu `State' lets you choose `Show Saved Lisp expression', which does what it says: replaces the `INS' and `DEL' entries of `Parameter' and `Value' with, well the alist as a Lisp sexp. Edit that there, or edit it elsewhere. IOW, `customize-option' gives you more along the lines of what was requested than does `customize-set-variable'. But yes, `customize-set-variable' should at least give you the current value using `M-n'. Given that value, even a complex one, you could edit it in the minibuffer. (`set-variable' does make the current value available as the default (`M-n') for editing. In other respects `customize-set-variable' is preferable to `set-variable'.)