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From: "Daniel Colascione" <dancol@dancol.org>
To: "Andreas Schwab" <schwab@suse.de>
Cc: Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: dabbrev-expand should escape kbd macros, shouldn't it?
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 11:30:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e6817d39ed9be00e678b38b9531cf830.squirrel@dancol.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mvmlfww3bgl.fsf@suse.de>

> On Jul 17 2019, "Daniel Colascione" <dancol@dancol.org> wrote:
>
>> Right now, if you record a kbd macro and hit M-/, the act of hitting M-/
>> is recorded like any other command in the kbd macro. On replay, we'll
>> run
>> dabbrev-expand. The problem is that dabbrev-expand produces radically
>> different results depending on buffer context, making macro replay
>> unpredictable. Should the *result* of dabbrev-expand just get put into
>> the
>> kbd macro instead?
>
> How is that different from any other key that is part of the macro?  The
> point of a kbd macro is to record keys, not their effect (or even their
> binding).

Sort of. We make keyboard macros in the first place so we can do a thing
over and over. It turns out that dumbly recording and replaying keystrokes
is a pretty good strategy for lightweight automation. But dumb key
recording doesn't work well in some cases, and dabbrev is one of those. I
use dabbrev because I want to insert a specific string, cycling through
alternatives until I find the one I want. That's going to produce
different results on different occasions. Most of the time, recorded
keystrokes in macros aren't that sensitive to _temporal_ and _interbuffer_
context, and dabbrev is, so I think we should make an exception for
dabbrev.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-07-17 18:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-17 15:13 dabbrev-expand should escape kbd macros, shouldn't it? Daniel Colascione
2019-07-17 15:52 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-07-17 17:39   ` Drew Adams
2019-07-17 18:30   ` Daniel Colascione [this message]
2019-07-18  7:32     ` Andreas Schwab
2019-07-18 22:22     ` Juri Linkov

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