From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ken Brown Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23746: 25.0.95; Doc fixes (grammar, typos, clarification) Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 15:40:03 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87h9czoh5v.fsf@gmx.net> <83d1nnhfmu.fsf@gnu.org> <87d1nnofd2.fsf@gmx.net> <83bn37h6o0.fsf@gnu.org> <871t421e7w.fsf@gmx.net> <83vb1efd9v.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1465760487 17061 80.91.229.3 (12 Jun 2016 19:41:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 19:41:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 23746@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net To: Eli Zaretskii , Stephen Berman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 12 21:41:13 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bCBFx-0002fT-9R for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Jun 2016 21:41:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52491 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bCBFw-0002Sa-Gv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Jun 2016 15:41:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57573) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bCBFq-0002Ra-V3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jun 2016 15:41:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bCBFm-0007LE-Mc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jun 2016 15:41:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:54186) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bCBFm-0007L9-JJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jun 2016 15:41:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bCBFm-0005P6-8x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jun 2016 15:41:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ken Brown Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 19:41:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23746 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23746-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23746.146576041220710 (code B ref 23746); Sun, 12 Jun 2016 19:41:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23746) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jun 2016 19:40:12 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38290 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bCBEy-0005Ny-3A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jun 2016 15:40:12 -0400 Original-Received: from limerock03.mail.cornell.edu ([128.84.13.243]:43160) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bCBEw-0005Nm-Su for 23746@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jun 2016 15:40:11 -0400 X-CornellRouted: This message has been Routed already. Original-Received: from authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (granite3.serverfarm.cornell.edu [10.16.197.8]) by limerock03.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4_cu) with ESMTP id u5CJe4UB015271; Sun, 12 Jun 2016 15:40:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.1.3] (mta-68-175-148-36.twcny.rr.com [68.175.148.36] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id u5CJe2NS007465 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sun, 12 Jun 2016 15:40:02 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 In-Reply-To: <83vb1efd9v.fsf@gnu.org> X-PMX-Cornell-Gauge: Gauge=XXXXX X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:119463 Archived-At: On 6/12/2016 2:55 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Stephen Berman >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 23746@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 19:58:27 +0200 >> >> On Sat, 11 Jun 2016 16:21:19 -0400 Noam Postavsky wrote: >> >>> As a native English speaker, "your Lisp program may wish telling the >>> process" sounds obviously incorrect (though I'm not sure how to >>> explain why in terms of grammatical rules). Whereas, "your Lisp >>> program may wish to tell the process" is correct. >> >> That's one argument for this change; another is the statistical one >> based on the existing Emacs documentation: >> >> steve@rosalinde:/data/steve/git/emacs> grep -r " wish to " doc/ | wc -l >> 196 >> steve@rosalinde:/data/steve/git/emacs> grep -r " wish [a-z]*ing " doc/ >> doc/lispref/processes.texi:may wish telling the process the dimensions >> >> Eli, does this persuade you to accept this change too? > > Sorry, no. There's nothing wrong in the original wording in this > case. As a native speaker of English, I agree with Noam on this. "may wish telling" sounds wrong. Ken